054B/new generation frigate

valysre

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is basically useless in peace time
I would argue that most weapon systems are useless in peacetime. We only really have weapons in case of a war, so why argue that "these weapons could be made more useful for when they aren't going to be used, at the cost of making them less useful for when they are going to be used"?
 

Blitzo

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I was going to stop but then the sycophant got me started again

You shouldn't have continued posting after everyone responded to your initial question, so I think everyone has been treating you quite nicely all things considered.

My advice is to withdraw gracefully.
 

Jaym

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I would argue that most weapon systems are useless in peacetime. We only really have weapons in case of a war, so why argue that "these weapons could be made more useful for when they aren't going to be used, at the cost of making them less useful for when they are going to be used"?
You can swap out the weapon for some peace time payload.... or experimental shit
 

valysre

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You can swap out the weapon for some peace time payload.... or experimental shit
Suggest a peacetime payload, and maybe people will take your idea more seriously.
"Experimental shit" can just be strapped on, happens all the time. That's why it's "experimental", it doesn't require serial production units to support it.
 

Wrought

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im saying that a bunch of highly specialized hulls with not removable weapons is basically useless in peace time... and ultimately when the weapons become obsolete... a modular hull means i can swap out those weapons with other up to date weapons or some peace time payload.

Hell even in wartime i could probably swap them out with some other weapon i find more useful for a particular battle or just use the empty space for some kind of storage. im sure there are other benefits as well. thats why its being widely considered and implemented in the West.

There it is. rock solid concrete down to earth logic.

What does "basically useless in peacetime" mean? Is a nuclear arsenal "basically useless in peacetime" as well? What does that mean for wartime use cases, and the expenditure of resources to construct and maintain said capabilities?

What does "I could swap out those weapons" mean? What weapons? What process? Where are you cutting the steel and screwing the bolts?

Who is considering and implementing it in the West? What are the timelines and budgets of these programs, and what capabilities do they provide?

All of these (and more) questions need answers to even get started talking about these subjects, unless of course you only want to spout nonsense the way you have been so far. Without them, your "rock solid concrete down to earth logic" is pure bullshit. You simply don't have any idea what you're talking about.
 

Jaym

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You shouldn't have continued posting after everyone responded to your initial question, so I think everyone has been treating you quite nicely all things considered.

My advice is to withdraw gracefully.
im trying. this is me doom scrolling again
 

Blitzo

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im trying. this is me doom scrolling again

Okay this is me writing as a moderator (do not respond to moderator posts)

Learn to take the hint and stop replying. If you are doomscrolling, fine. Don't bother the rest of us with your internal conflicts please.


If other people respond to your posts and all you can say is "swap out some experimental shit," then it means you shouldn't have posted that to begin with.

It means it is time for you to stop replying, or if you want to actually reply with dignity, writing something to acknowledge you were incorrect and you'll reflect on on what you'll post in future, may be a good avenue to take. After all, we are all here to learn, and just because you've comprehensively lost an argument doesn't mean you can't take anything away from it.

Also, please don't use swear words so casually on this forum.

This is a warning.

Edit: to others as well, this topic has continued enough, further posts on the matter will be deleted.
 
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Jaym

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Okay this is me writing as a moderator (do not respond to moderator posts)

Learn to take the hint and stop replying. If you are doomscrolling, fine. Don't bother the rest of us with your internal conflicts please.


If other people respond to your posts and all you can say is "swap out some experimental shit," then it means you shouldn't have posted that to begin with.

It means it is time for you to stop replying, or if you want to actually reply with dignity, writing something to acknowledge you were incorrect and you'll reflect on on what you'll post in future, may be a good avenue to take. After all, we are all here to learn, and just because you've comprehensively lost an argument doesn't mean you can't take anything away from it.

Also, please don't use swear words so casually on this forum.

This is a warning.

Edit: to others as well, this topic has continued enough, further posts on the matter will be deleted.
I dont think im wrong though.
 

Blitzo

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I dont think im wrong though.

Fine, then enjoy a month away from the forum.
I hope on your return you are more obliging of everyone else's replies to you and to also follow when a moderator has asked for a chain of discussion to be ceased.
 
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