antiterror13
Brigadier
When will it be ?
054/A FFG Thread II
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When will it be ?
Well, HP sure showed me. That's definitely the 8th 054A there. 056 is next to it.
I've always talked about this. This is a lot of new ships that PLAN is absorbing. The software part of it is just as daunting as the hardware. They are getting a lot of valuable experience with these trips to the Gulf of Aden, but that's still a lot of new and capable ships that will have to be manned properly.
okay now, can we please not use the word mountains to describe 071s anymore? Just because some guys on Chinese bbs like to use it, doesn't mean we need to also.
also, i think 50 056 is just way too many.
the problem is that 054A is not really ideal in a carrier group due to its speed issues. They will need a 054B.
i think you meant 051 destroyers there.
I've always talked about this. This is a lot of new ships that PLAN is absorbing. The software part of it is just as daunting as the hardware. They are getting a lot of valuable experience with these trips to the Gulf of Aden, but that's still a lot of new and capable ships that will have to be manned properly.
056s are going to be in the number of 40-50s
while the mountains/071 will depend on China's CBG expeditionary force composition or even if they are going to use it in such way, the sensible number for now as Jeff said is 4 or perhaps 6
things might change in the future, as PLAN contemplates their reach
okay now, can we please not use the word mountains to describe 071s anymore? Just because some guys on Chinese bbs like to use it, doesn't mean we need to also.
also, i think 50 056 is just way too many.
Great PIC ! Soon we will get some pics from HP showing a much more complete 056. Can't wait for them to start rolling out.The 15th 054A (8th of Huangpu) Plus The First 056!
I figure maybe 24-30 of them...if that many. But they will be good vessels for the littorals for the PLAN.
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MwRYum
Major
Opps, thanks for reminding me, amended on the original.
And to consider their plan to transit into "Blue Water Navy", so far only on 2 types of ships the officers and men would get the necessary real-life exposure: their AO ships and 054 series FFG. Should their career progress on from thereon, they'd either ended up reaching higher up the chain of command or as instructors teaching the new cadets - if they want to progress they need men who experienced on new generation of large combatants instead of old rusty Ludas or missile gunboats.
Like I said, consider how many of those old rust buckets with so diverse sets of weaponry the PLAN have to replace with standardized indigenous designs. However short the 180-day-plus expedition to Gulf of Aden maybe, it's said that such opportunities are hotly contested, even those sailors whose spouse is expecting to give birth would choose to go too...but of course something like that (long range deployment and long separation from families,that is) is common to USN or other "Blue Water" navies, if and when it becomes common thing then the PLAN really comes to age, but that'd be at least a few decades more.
joshuatree
Captain
I seriously doubt PLAN needs a 1:1 replacement of 056 to Shanghai. Those boats are so outdated.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Modern command and control, screen grab shot from type 054 TV documentary .Certainly an improvement over TAVITAC
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I thought on some occassions they were including DDGs in the missions.
Either way, the PLAN needs to identify more such missions, either anti-pirating, show the flag, humanitarian, etc. where they can send SAG with UNREP out to more places so that all of thier mordern vessels get this type of experience.
I would expect with their interests rising in Africa and elsewhjere they could find reasons a planty to do so, and even include the LPDs as well. That's what I would be doing if I were interested in getting the training and experience in necessary for long term blue water capability, and to be able to develo[p the policies and procedures to support it.
Are you talking about the Jianghu FFGs? I believe 22 or so of them are left in servce, maybe less at this point.Paintgun said:
There are what, 14 Jiangwei firgates still in service? So between them, that's 36 frigates.
I believe 24-30 of Type 056 OPV/FFGs would be more than adequate to replace the older vessels and compliment the newer ones (Particularly the Jiangwei IIs which were built between 1996 and 2005 and have good service life left and some decent capability) while they go on through and complete their service life.
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plawolf
Lieutenant General
Why have they all got satchels? It makes them look like school children.
What have they got in them that they need to all keep carrying the satchels even when seated at their stations? If it's something that important that the men need to have about their persons at all times, you'd think they could have designed something more suitable...
For once, I hope this is just a staged photo, and they the guys loose the schoolbags as soon as the cameras are out of there.
And are those wheely chairs?! Hands up who think that could go badly wrong?