054/A FFG Thread II

[franco-russe]

054A is probably a little larger than 051, but where do you get the proof that it is certainly larger just by looking at these photos?

Also while this is probably from Lushun, it's interesting to see 548 and 163 in the photo, since they are from ESF and SSF respectively.

Following the mass sortie of ESF units from the Zhoushan base complex in mid-July, a group of frigates, including JIANGKAI II 548, JIANGWEI II 522 and 524, proceeded to the Yellow Sea to conduct live fires. Subsequently, the group arrived at Lushun 31 July where they surprisingly still are – I suppose the two outboard JIANGWEI’s are 522 and 524 (the NSF only has two JIANGWEI II’s, 527 which went to visit Vladivostok and Wonson late July/early August, and 528).

LUDA 163 and 164 were transferred from Zhangjiang to Lushun in 2008, replacing the decommissioned LUDA 105 and 106 in 10 Destroyer Flotilla.

 

[Lion]

We shall be safe to say VLS of 054A is largely an indigenous effort by Chinese ,right? Even the missile I believe is not directed from SA-11..

I saw the latest Talwar class Indian Frigate build by Russian. They still used the obsolete slanted launcher which limit the amount of target and engagement speed. If VLS of China was assisted by Russian and Russian possess such technology, surely they will incoporated such technology if money is not a problem from India on Indian Frigate.

I still remember Taizhou(138) and Ningbo(139), the 2 Sovremenny class which were more advance class of Sovremenny class delivered to PLAN rumour to have the VLS instead of the slanted launcher. But it never happens. Instead the old SA-11 launcher is still using.

Russian has not demonstrated capable of deploying pack VLS hot launch capapbility yet. Instead the Chinese catch up with them and surpass....

 

[MwRYum]

Via personal close observation( the port visit to HK on the Dec 2009) the system is more mirrored from the US. Mk. 41 than anything of Russian designs.

If that indicates anything, the Chinese should've concluded that hot-launch VLS system is the future.

 

[Lion]

Via personal close observation( the port visit to HK on the Dec 2009) the system is more mirrored from the US. Mk. 41 than anything of Russian designs.

If that indicates anything, the Chinese should've concluded that hot-launch VLS system is the future.

But China has no way to access those key data or component of MK41 launcher of the western. It need to do from scratch....

 

[MwRYum]

But China has no way to access those key data or component of MK41 launcher of the western. It need to do from scratch....

The Chinese have an amazing capability of reverse engineering, even if they only have pictures and models to begin with...the openly available ll able information on Mk. 41 should've given then a general direction, then they've to figure out material science and system integration...

 

[Lion]

The Chinese have an amazing capability of reverse engineering, even if they only have pictures and models to begin with...the openly available ll able information on Mk. 41 should've given then a general direction, then they've to figure out material science and system integration...

WOW. That is amazing.. More or less show how advance China has reached. With few layman data and just pictures, they can RE anything...

 

[A.Man]

The Chinese have an amazing capability of reverse engineering, even if they only have pictures and models to begin with...the openly available ll able information on Mk. 41 should've given then a general direction, then they've to figure out material science and system integration...

I can give you all the BMW parts and let you to drive a real BMW. You might be able to put a car together but not the BMW(I am using BMW as an example).

 

[A.Man]

13th 054A Is Almost Ready To Go At HP

 

[hmmwv]

For a shipyard the size of Huangpu, they consistently put out 054As quicker than Hudong, I wonder if the manufacturing method is more efficient here.

 

[antiterror13]

Via personal close observation( the port visit to HK on the Dec 2009) the system is more mirrored from the US. Mk. 41 than anything of Russian designs.

If that indicates anything, the Chinese should've concluded that hot-launch VLS system is the future.

Is 054A VLS hot-launched system ? ... any proof ?