052/052B Class Destroyers

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drunkmunky

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

no_name said:
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You guys are all idiots. We've seen that ball since 1977.

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It's obviously a force shield.... like.... duh.
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asif iqbal

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

i.e. said:
all this rumours aside...


I have seen reliable sources say Ds will be substantially out numbering Cs.
and D is the bigger 8000-10000 ton destroyer with 4x GT25000 .
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All this rumours aside share the source
 
asif iqbal

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

i do not read or speak Chinese, and Sinodefenceforum is the only forum i visit for news

nevertheless even if Type 052D is slightly bigger than the current Type 052C that doesnt automatically mean there wont be a larger DDG in the works which will be >10,000 tons, using previous trends, information, speculation, guess work and hypothesis, you can also figure whats next, not exactly rocket science
 
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A.Man

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Let's put this way: D's are more than C's. The C's are equal or more than 6. The PAR of D's is go to be flat. Meanwhile, there is an AB class DDG developing. It will be more than D's.
 
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313230

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

A.Man said:
Let's put this way: D's are more than C's. The C's are equal or more than 6. The PAR of D's is go to be flat. Meanwhile, there is an AB class DDG developing. It will be more than D's.
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AB means Anti Ballistic missle?
 
Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Totoro said:
i have serious doubts that two carriers will be built at once, no matter what could be read so far. It just isnt prudent to do that with a new class, especially for someone like china who is learning the carrier making business. It seems more likely we will see a single carrier, perhaps even fully built, tested at sea, and then we will see another one of the same design...
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Well, I agree that the more prudent from our standpoint would be to do them separately...but here's two points.

1) The PLAN had never built an AEGIS-like DDG before either, yet the first two were built simultaneously.

2) The UK is building two 65,000 ton carriers simultaneously now...and they have never built a large carrier like this either, and it has been over 60 years sent the built a conventional carrier at all so the manufacturing is new to them.

Finally, if they can pull it off, there are economic plusses to building two together.

So, while I too doubt they will, it would not be unprecedented, nor that risky if they are truly committed to the program and intend to jump start it and really kick it in the pants like they did for the Type 052C...and the 051B and 051C for that matter. Same was apparently true for their Type 093 SSN...though we do not have the pics for that.

It would also be very impressive and send a strong political MSG too.
 
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lostsoul

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Jeff Head said:
2) The UK is building two 65,000 ton carriers simultaneously now...and they have never built a larges carrier like this either, and it has boon over 60 years sent the built a conventional carrier at all so the manufacturing is new to them.

Finally, if they can pull it off, their are economic pluses to building two together.

It would also be very impressive and send a strong political MSG too.
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UK is going back to STOVL carriers with F-35Bs.
also the only message it is sending is the extremely poor accounting in the project.

If China wants to deter USN access all they need is lots of SSNs imo.
 
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i.e.

Senior Member
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Jeff Head said:
Well, I agree that the more prudent from our standpoint would be to do them separately...but here's two points.

1) The PLAN had never built an AEGIS-like DDG before either, yet the first two were built simultaneously.

2) The UK is building two 65,000 ton carriers simultaneously now...and they have never built a larges carrier like this either, and it has boon over 60 years sent the built a conventional carrier at all so the manufacturing is new to them.

Finally, if they can pull it off, their are economic pluses to building two together.

So, while I too doubt they will, it would not be unprecedented, nor that risky if they are truly committed to the program and intend to jump start it and really kick it in the pants like they did for the Type 052C...and the 051B and 051C for that matter. Same was apparently true for their Type 093 SSN...though we do not have the pics for that.

It would also be very impressive and send a strong political MSG too.
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for their large destroyers the peices are in place. weapon system, (HHQ-9) electronics (Radars) propulsion (GT25000), CIWS (new 130mm gun, HHQ-10 and 7/1130 gun) . the technology is there and has all matured.

as for their 093 program the last boat of the class was launched already :) they have moved on.
 
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