052/052B Class Destroyers

asif iqbal

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Franklin said:
I believe China in the future will have 9000 to 10,000 ton warships simply out of necessity. All their neighbors on the East China Sea now have 9000+ ton destroyers that is Japan, South Korea and even Taiwan. Without it China is in a disadvantage.
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China has planned a cruiser called Type 058 entry around 2020, this is different from Type 052D
 
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myacupbaby

Just Hatched
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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

asif iqbal said:
China has planned a cruiser called Type 058 entry around 2020, this is different from Type 052D
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sorry.brother,i never found any info about 058,in china military forum,no post involves 058,the 9000T ship,is figured the 052D by main people.

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Bltizo said:
Much thanks (again lol)

Personally I feel the "over 7000t" number to be more realistic for a ship the 052C's size, and especially looking at the way it is armed (48 large SAMs with eight AShMs the size of anti ship tomahawks).
With that info then, I'm going to interpret the "6800 t" displacement for 052D from the "new vessel" projection, as standard displacement rather than full, which if applied to the rest of the chart, will have interesting implications for the new cruiser and frigate's respective weights and the fleet composition PLAN are going for in the next coming decade...
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i think the new 052D wont use the new VSL,it's more adviseable to use 2 set of VSL from 052C,no matter considers its the cost or generality.
 
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no_name

Colonel
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

It seems that the new USN Zumwalt class destroyer has VLS silos placed around the rim and along the length of the ship's hull. I suppose it's less messy that way if the ship is hit.
 
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myacupbaby

Just Hatched
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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

inzim said:
Dude don't pretend you know Chinese when you don't. 10000 has nothing to do with the emperor. 10000sui is just a phrase to say we hope you live to 10000 years old. It does not mean emperor.
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MY FRIEND,I AM A REAL CHINESE,HAHAHAH.THE "10000SUI" MEANS "WANSUI"(10000=wan in chinese),CHINESE IN The Qing Dynasty call thier emperor "WANSUI".

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Jeff Head said:
They will build at some point an upgraded DDG. It may be based on the 052C hull, but sooner or later the new vessel with new capabilities will come.

But when it does come, you can be sure that it will not be based on "domestic military fans," or "citizen patriot," pressure. It will be based on the needs of the PLANnd influenced by budgetary constraints.
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your analyse is right,as a chinese, i expect that there're more &more ships being built.
 
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no_name

Colonel
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Wansui is only ever used to address the emperors. All the other royalties have to settle with qiansui, which means thousand years.

The normal guy is lucky if he gets to 100 years old, so you see there is a whole order of magnitude difference between each levels! :p
 
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A.Man

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

China Navy DDG 168 In Red Sea!

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Of Course. This Is Real!
 
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inzim

New Member
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

no_name said:
Wansui is only ever used to address the emperors. All the other royalties have to settle with qiansui, which means thousand years.

The normal guy is lucky if he gets to 100 years old, so you see there is a whole order of magnitude difference between each levels! :p
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There is no such thing as qian sui. And the correct phrase is "Fu Wang Wan Sui Wan Sui Wan Wan Sui" where Fu Wang means emperor. A Wan Sui means live 10000 years. It's just like "lord almighty" almighty has nothing to do with lord other than being a phrase that is often said with "lord"
 
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franco-russe

Senior Member
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Note the maple leaf on the funnel.

This is the Canadian HALIFAX class frigate 333 TORONTO (not a very pretty ship IMHO).
 
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