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solarz

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Yes, this is what I'm talking about. Average people will probably not need multivariable calculus, so additional math education at a secondary school level should probably concentrate on practical applications such as personal finance.

I don't know what high school you went to, but I learned calculus in University, not high school.

High school math was just algebra and geometry.
 

AndrewS

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I don't know what high school you went to, but I learned calculus in University, not high school.

High school math was just algebra and geometry.

Calculus is part of the curriculum for 17-18 year old high school students who do Maths in the UK.
And I would agree calculus is excessive and not required for the average student.

And from personal experience, I would agree that additional maths for 18 year olds in the UK should focus on practical applications such personal finance and being able to do basic mental arithmetic instantly.

One of the results will be a population which instinctively asks "where is the data" and "show me the numbers" whenever a decision needs to be made, which is a good thing.
 

AndrewS

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Also, many Lawyers/MBAs/Bankers/Salespeople are people who have sci-tech backgrounds, but are financially incentivized to use their skills to “develop” cryptocurrencies, derivative assets, patent litigation, etc.

I think you need to scratch lawyers off that list.
How many lawyers or law students do you know who have sci-tech backgrounds?

Wiki entry below for reference

"In 2001, the five most common majors of students entering law school were political science, history, English, psychology, and criminal justice.[1]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-law
 

supersnoop

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Maybe he's an old fart that went to high school during the time there are OAC classes
I did
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To clarify, multivariable calculus was a university course. However, yes, I did take OAC calculus in high school.
I guess I am pretty old, lol

Also remember the background was how necessary math is to the end of secondary school. Most math at the 17-18 age is University prep (algebra, vectors, calculus). If the desired outcome of Sunak's proposal is to educate society as a whole, then that stuff would be overkill.

I think you need to scratch lawyers off that list.
How many lawyers or law students do you know who have sci-tech backgrounds?

Wiki entry below for reference

"In 2001, the five most common majors of students entering law school were political science, history, English, psychology, and criminal justice.[1]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-law

I think there are quite a few patent troll lawyers that have those backgrounds, of course I've never investigated it, but just from news articles. Of course my main point is sci-tech grads being unproductive and reminding how patent litigation/strong IP laws are promoted as "fostering innovation", when most of the time it is the opposite.
 

taxiya

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Calculus is part of the curriculum for 17-18 year old high school students who do Maths in the UK.
That explains all the fuss around it. Calculus is taught in the 1st year in university in China. Recently some high schools in China put it in their senior years as an option/introduction, but it is not part of the official curriculum.

Not intending to brag, but it does look weird that UK has Calculus in their high school while even east Asian countries do not who are strong in math education. Maybe UK puts the effort in the wrong place in the wrong time. I think Sunank maybe is doing the right thing.
 

FriedButter

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Not intending to brag, but it does look weird that UK has Calculus in their high school while even east Asian countries do not who are strong in math education. Maybe UK puts the effort in the wrong place in the wrong time. I think Sunank maybe is doing the right thing.

Sunak hasn’t done anything. The original opinion piece was complaining about him doing nothing. Not like any of the previous PMs did either.
 
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