Ukrainian War Developments

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windsclouds2030

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"From an American volunteer on the front lines outside of Kyiv:

"Sitting close to the frontline, the last safe mode of transportation leaves for greener pastures. A core group of about 30 foreign fighters remains out of around 200 people who were here just minutes ago..." 1/

"The base we came from was struck by rockets in the early morning hours. People we lived with for a couple days are confirmed dead. It is only a matter of time before our location is targeted. We are about to be cut off by a Russian tank column any day now..." 2/
If he wants to fly around the world to join into random wars he’s more than welcome to do that. Stop peddling propaganda. Stop trying to drag us into a fight that isn’t ours. We JUST talked about, for 20 years, why this doesn’t work. Massive fails in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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ansy1968

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Disagree. Russian history shows that the Russian people can stand a lot of hardships but they absolutely won't allow a shameful defeat.

Whoever Russian leader loses wars, is historically removed shortly after that defeat.

So, for China's national interests, Russia shouldn't be allowed to be defeated. Anyway, I dont think that Russia will lose in this war, but it is still important to understand how Russian people react to military defeats
@Overbom So true bro, BUT some may argue what about the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan in the 80's, Well they suffered casualties BUT withdraw in orderly manner with a functioning gov't compared that with the recent action by the Collective West. Only the dissolution of the SU in 90's did the Najibullah gov't fall as financial and arms support were cut.
 

plawolf

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All this Russia asking China for arms media storm seems like it’s a load of BS.

Any new complex systems will take weeks or even months just for the Russians to be trained on them. And as western Javelin spam showed, even sending in comparative simple systems is going to be massively wasteful and very likely ineffective, not to mention easily detected.

As such, there is minimal chance China can transfer weapons in secret and keep it secret. As such, without official Chinese government announcements, it’s almost certainly BS nonsense.

Similarly, it will take months or even years to set up production of Russian weapons in China before the first batches can reach the frontline.

Timeframe wise, it doesn’t make much sense.

Maybe China can transfer back some of the Russian made PGMs it purchased. But to be frank, i don’t think China has much of it left by now since the bulk of those stocks would have been purchased with the first batches of MKKs and would have reach the end of their useful lives long before now. With the PLA being notoriously cost efficient, they would have been used up in training before expiring, and any safety stocks held and expired would have been disposed off shortly after expiring anyways.

The only things that might be supplied in short time and have significant battlefield impact would be combat optics and night vision. We are already seeming Holosun optics showing up in some pictures, so it’s one thing I’m keeping an eye on. But such optics are commercially available so even if they start showing up en mass, it’s hardly going to be proof positive of anything other than maybe somebody making big AliExpress orders. Indeed, the Ukrainians have been buying Holosuns en mass themselves, so the Russians could just be using battlefield pick ups themselves.
 

liamban

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3 days of basic training, then pushed to the frontlines, but I'm sure they'll do fine, with the many hours of Call of Duty, Battlefield and Apex Legends under their belt, they've all the skills they need.

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Just over a week ago I met a group of young men who had volunteered at a centre in Kyiv to fight for Ukraine.
Most of them were in their late teens, not long out of school. They told me that after three days' basic training they would head for the front line - or very close to it.....

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You got the call of duty part right. The only thing about them surviving and returning home is that they are mass shooters in the making.

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