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Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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AlexYe

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I think Kharg is a dumb choice. With 20km2, they will get bombarded by drones till death. There will be no exit or resupply.
Trump is dumb but not CENTCOM, (or idk, who would be in control of them.) It might be a media diversion to distract Iran.

Other potential options are:

Land onto Kurds to "motivate" them to help them fight for their "freedom"

Some Iraqi airport and start trying to land more troops from there

Both options are very dangerous, but not as crazy as Kharg
I doubt the various official even knew what kharg is, internally they must be mentioning/talking about it, the people name-dropping dont know how dumb it is.
1) Rest options are just bad too, They cant land directly where the Kurds are.
2) Iraqi airports have been under attack past 2 days, esp last night with baghdad n Victory base, Iraqi militias even claim they killed 11 US soldiers on victory base.

I think they should go to afghanistan first , conquer it and then land invade iran from the back.

I think they mainly utilize UH-60 variants and CH-53.
If it was uh-60 that means 30-40 soldiers,
CH53 carry aloooooot people tho..
The outline on the video does look more like uh-60
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Apparently picture of Jordanian THAAT radar,
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Doesnt look Ai to me.
 

Temstar

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One of the fear I had, that IRGC and Iranian armed forces will not work well together during a war turned out to be unnecessary so far. As far as I can tell both of them are fully dedicated to defence of Iran with examples like those air force pilots making one way attacks.

How is the relationship between the two like in peace times? Is the meme about the two disliking each other just misinformation?
 

another505

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As a youngster I used to misread Lebanese as LESbanese, so i thought it was a city/place of only lesbians

I doubt the 3-4 anti-ship missiles iran fires will hit the actual carrier or its escorts, they can easily shoot that much down.
they would have to fire like 60-80 at once.

WTF, a mounting issue takes 2 years??? Is the bolt made of diamon

yeah between these 3 its hard to believe its the bolt-mounting thats fucked up and needs 2 years.

Further update over the beqaa incident:
Apparently they were attempting to acquire the remains of a dead IDF pilot who is buried in the area,
But I have also read another saying they were attempting to sabotage some tunnel entrances.
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It kinda seems insane they went 4 helis full of commandoes to get remains back, now they are even more dead IDF in the area.

Does anyone know what type of heli IDF would use in this? 3-4 heli fulls should be 20-30 soldiers dead?

Where are you sources for the Israeli commando incident? Can you post them
 

_killuminati_

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This doesn’t even look realistic…
They should paint a few F-22's.

edit: also, try plugging in the coordinates depicted on that "satellite image".
It takes you to a random field in the west of Belarus...

(the latitude and longitude numbers on it don't even make sense)
It does indeed look too refined to be satellite images. The coordinates, however, I think are NATO's Military Grid Reference numbers, not the typical longitude/latitude found on conventional maps.
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Converted to normal coordinates (32.748, 59.128), the location appears in Khorasan province in the south west of Iran, but no airfield is shown on Google earth (possibly, Google image of that area is not updated).

Damn my post got deleted just because I mentioned strait hormuz n the C word. Even tho it was actual news.
What's the C word?

I mean, you can see the F-35's don't venture near Iranian air space as much as the US and others like to claim.The israelis are less risk averse but they don't seem to attempt it nearly as often.

Not even the Russians flew this cautiously at the start of the war against a better air defense network
Losing a flagship aircraft that is developed on a lot of marketing can cause damage to future sales potential. Such is the case, most probably, for the American and Israeli AD systems. Russians don't seem to care much about this, except for with the new Su-57 which, if I'm not mistaken, doesn't see much combat in Ukraine.
did you even bother to look at a map?

Iran is a massive country. here is how it compares to others.

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To be more precise, a population density map paints a better picture since most of the land is uninhabited. Invasion looks easier with this map,
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Probable sat image of the USN Ford carrier strike group transiting the Suez Canal

One thing I've always wondered is how difficult would it be to protect a carrier transitioning through a (Suez) Canal that is only 200m wide at some points? This looks like the ultimate choke point for a carrier; unable to manuever, unprotected from friendly ships, WVR of shore on both sides, traversing through dense population centers (Port Said, Ismailia, Qantara) and undeveloped areas. If Iran had setup cells along the Suez, they could've done serious damage to USN.
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Quick crash course from a fellow engineer, then.

Country / RegionGDP (Gross Domestic Product)MVA (Manufacturing Value Added)DMC (Domestic Material Consumption)Ratio: $ / Ton
China$19.4 Trillion$6.21 Trillion~35.0 Billion Tonnes~$550
USA$30.6 Trillion$2.91 Trillion~6.5 Billion Tonnes~$4,700
EU (Total)$20.5 Trillion$3.12 Trillion~5.8 Billion Tonnes~$3,500
Russia$2.54 Trillion$0.38 Trillion~4.2 Billion Tonnes~$600
UK$3.96 Trillion$0.35 Trillion~0.6 Billion Tonnes~$6,600
Iran$0.36 Trillion$0.06 Trillion~0.8 Billion Tonnes~$450

Spot the service economy bubbles? See the value of GDP when it comes to actual physical goods production?



As someone who specialised in manufacturing engineering, my biggest headache is always people.
Mentality, intelligence, organisational inertia, bureaucracy. Actual engineering problems are usually the smallest worry.

You left that factor out entirely. Outside of a few rare exceptions like Elon's companies most prominently, manufacturing in the US is a downwards trend, mostly because society has taken a shape where efficient manufacturing gets harder and harder due to social factors.
The physics of engineering is the same on different continents ... yet if you compare the throughput, it is vastly different.

I am not saying the US cannot make enough bombs. I think they actually have a decent stockpile, and they could ramp production.
I think the delivery chain will strain before they run out of stuff to drop.

But honestly do not take economic advice from me. Economics largely makes no sense to me.
US economy transitioned away from a tangible economy and into a non-tangible financial economy, I think starting in late 80s.

tell you man that day the Israel decide to going after the Saudis. The Kingdom is doomed despite their military budget.
The Arab kingdoms are clearly in a quagmire. They put their trust in USA, investing there as a form of protection money but US failed to deliver, prioritizing Israel instead. Simultaneously, many of these kingdoms are not well-liked by their populations, and have also developed their entire military infrastructure heavily dependent on US/vassal systems, so there is no backing out of the American sphere.

That was and is my opinion from the start of the conflict - the goal is chaos.

Medvedev would be a total nightmare to the USA if Putin were to stepdown.
Isn't Putin's successor supposed to be the Jewish Mikhail Mishushtin?

You know things are bad when the usual pundits are starting to increasingly turn against the USA and are abandoning the idea that supporting them isn’t a good idea. Both of those warmongering idiots are going to leave behind a legacy of disgrace and both nations ruined beyond repair if they don’t stop this nonsense and simply accept that the not only lost but seriously owe massive concessions without any kind of leverage whatsoever.
It is just theatrics to appease their local surroundings or domestic populations. Most of them will follow US to their doom while openly criticizing it.

If you chain oil tankers stranded in Persian Gulf together with iron chains, you can form a bridge from the island to mainland Iran.
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I think Kharg is a dumb choice. With 20km2, they will get bombarded by drones till death. There will be no exit or resupply.
Trump is dumb but not CENTCOM, (or idk, who would be in control of them.) It might be a media diversion to distract Iran.
Kharg is a very important node of Irani oil industry.

If there is boots on the ground scenario, which I am certain of as of now, it will be to invade Khuzestan province bordering Iraq where most of the oil is. Taking that from Iran, even if it remains non-operational and under constant attack, will levy a serious blow to the Irani economy.
 

AlexYe

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If thats the case, thats alot of soldiers deaths, Maybe Hezbollah managed to capture some before they got hannibal-directived.

Where are you sources for the Israeli commando incident? Can you post them
All lebanese channels on telegram, Hell even the hebrew tv steam online was reporting about it in the start till they got censored and they started running hebrew prayer-for-soldiers on repeat

lebanese Ex minister even posted about it on his twitter.

Hezbollah has said they will make a statement about the incident soon and they have some further videos.
 

TPenglake

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One of the fear I had, that IRGC and Iranian armed forces will not work well together during a war turned out to be unnecessary so far. As far as I can tell both of them are fully dedicated to defence of Iran with examples like those air force pilots making one way attacks.

How is the relationship between the two like in peace times? Is the meme about the two disliking each other just misinformation?
The IRGC didn't just get preference in terms of more money and equipment, but practically had their own economic network, so there was no doubt enmity between the two. But when your country is facing annhilation, ie. girl's schools and UNESCO heritage sites bombed, those kinds of squabbles fall by the wayside.

Like what I'm seeing now in that lots of anti-Hezbollah Lebanese are nonetheless praising them for their actions in engaging Israeli commandos in Southern Lebanon.
 
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