2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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Maikeru

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Not that I'm expecting this to happen, but if China did decide to throw its hat into the ring, how feasable would it be to have J20s and J16s with YY20A and KJ500/2000 support operating out of Hotan and Kashgar to intercept US and Israeli aircraft over Iran? It's about 1800-2000km from those bases to the Iran/Afghan border and Afghan has said it would support Iran in the event of an attack. Obvious and immediate risk of retaliation against PLAN ships and bases in IO region of course.
 

plawolf

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Not that I'm expecting this to happen, but if China did decide to throw its hat into the ring, how feasable would it be to have J20s and J16s with YY20A and KJ500/2000 support operating out of Hotan and Kashgar to intercept US and Israeli aircraft over Iran? It's about 1800-2000km from those bases to the Iran/Afghan border and Afghan has said it would support Iran in the event of an attack. Obvious and immediate risk of retaliation against PLAN ships and bases in IO region of course.

The pilots would arrive exhausted, outnumbered and lacking critical support assets with limited to no follow on back up.

If China really wanted to kick off a fight with America directly in the ME, it would be far easier and impactful to just spam DF26s and see how many American carriers and Burkes they can pop.
 

manqiangrexue

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Not that I'm expecting this to happen, but if China did decide to throw its hat into the ring, how feasable would it be to have J20s and J16s with YY20A and KJ500/2000 support operating out of Hotan and Kashgar to intercept US and Israeli aircraft over Iran? It's about 1800-2000km from those bases to the Iran/Afghan border and Afghan has said it would support Iran in the event of an attack. Obvious and immediate risk of retaliation against PLAN ships and bases in IO region of course.
If you're gonna do that, might was well base directly in Iran. Chinese air bases, Chinese radars, jets, missile interceptors, only Chinese personel, all Chinese everything. Make it clear to Iran that these bases are here to fight for you, to protect you, to destroy your enemies, but not to work under you or cooperate with you. The danger of Mossad penetration in Iranian personel is too high so these bases need to act completely independently and without communication or approval from any Iranian body.

If China were at the stage of doing this, we're pretty much saying that we've confidently and sigificantly surpassed the US in every aspect including military power projection and they had better abdicate the throne and mellow down in peace or we are ready to take it by WWIII if needed. We're not there yet.
 
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sunnymaxi

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The pilots would arrive exhausted, outnumbered and lacking critical support assets with limited to no follow on back up.

If China really wanted to kick off a fight with America directly in the ME, it would be far easier and impactful to just spam DF26s and see how many American carriers and Burkes they can pop.
any type of military operation require bases in central Asia especially in Turkmenistan. then it would be very easy for PLAAF to participate.

China has very deep strategic interests in central Asia. a big military base serve the purpose very well. hope government think about it.
 

_killuminati_

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What do you guys think the US theory of victory is in this case? Do they foresee another Kosovo-like conflict where they bombed Serbia into submission, or another Syria-like conflict where they materially support a gradually strengthening insurgency (or rather a variety of insurgencies) while bombing Iran's key leadership institutions? Or alternatively, they'll try another Venezuela-like decapitation scenario?
Weakening/destroying Iran will allow Israel to demolish Masjid al Aqsa, in Jerusalem, on which they plan to build the Third Temple. This is the main goal of the Zionist zealots.

Creating chaos in the middleast will allow Israel to rapidly expand it's borders. First casualty will be those small Gulf Arab states (Qatar, UAE, Kuwait) who will get bombed by Iran. Iraq and Syria are already in the gutter while Egypt is adamant that handicapped Western weapons are the appropriate choice against Israel. Saudi Arabia is just a thread away from civil war with crown prince MBS having usurped his position to the dismay of the royal family while the actual King Salman is on his death bed.

It doesn't matter what happens to Iran in the end. Just have to keep it in chaos like the rest of middleast.
 

drowingfish

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Chevalier

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wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary. surely with all the aircraft being brought in you will need a commensurate deployment of ground personnel for support, staff work, and force protection.
According to this twitter user, the U.S. may have stopped production of these transporters over a decade ago,

so any losses would be irretrievable, hampering Anglo Americans’ desired gotterdamarung against China.


i wonder if the MSS has sent in Chinese PLA trainers and observers to Iran.
 

_killuminati_

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any type of military operation require bases in central Asia especially in Turkmenistan. then it would be very easy for PLAAF to participate.

China has very deep strategic interests in central Asia. a big military base serve the purpose very well. hope government think about it.
I think PLA already has a base in Kyrgyzstan, established after the 2016 Chinese embassy bombing.

That is true. Israel and US military facilities neighbouring Iran will bear the blunt of any Iranian retaliation. Thus, there is little downside to the US itself aside from potential military casualities and destroyed equipment. US CBGs will likely launch attacks from the Omani coast, outside the effective range of most Iranian missiles. Even if US runs out of munition, it can always take a break, restock, and repeat. The length of the war only depend on the will of the Israeli leadership and society.
Yemenis successfully targetted a tanker near the mainland Indian coast, some 2000km away.

It looks like US deliberately wants some of it's assets to be hit.

That actually figures into my calculus — I don’t actually think that Trump knows what the win condition is either. The lack of a clear objective may prove detrimental.
Trump's win condition is simple: don't be labeled an incestuous child molester.

Obviously it is within Israel’s interest to remove the last thorn from the Middle East. They’ve completely exposed themselves after Oct. 7th and there is no guarantee of continued American support when the boomers and Gen X die off. To ensure a safe future they have to completely cuckify the Middle East and North Africa.
I suspect the prognosis to be much darker than simply cuckifying the middleast. Instead, the Arab regions around Israel will be depopulated completely (as they say in Farsi, niist o nabood, lit. extinction/complete annihilation). Gaza was just a testing ground, it seems.

Watch the Saudis suddenly become a threat as well if Iran collapses, the Kurds, the Qataris. The key aspect of countries built on supremacists ideas is that you always need an enemy, an "eternal struggle" in which to rally people in order to maintain some semblance of cohesion.
I spoke to some local Kurds about the situation in Iraq and they said it's about to get bad. Didn't elaborate. Then recently, I spoke to a Chinese contractor in Iraq and he said the same thing but elaborated a bit with the Kurds in the north who are going to do some shit.

Kurd is a major problem in Iraq, Turkey, Syria, and Iran, and Israel regularly regards them as "our friends".

If the zionist virus is not stopped, there are dark days ahead for humanity. We can look at the zionist regime as of now as the american 13 colonies moment. What happened after that? Genocide, ethic cleansing, extermination of the indigenous populations and a whole continent taken over. We have seen that the zionists have absolutely no remorse to follow the same path, in fact their demented ideology drives them to do just that. And after they finish exterminating the palestinians and take their land, and then if they continue with this "greater israel" lebensraum plan with an order of magnitude higher attrocities against the unfortunate local populations, what makes one think they will stop at THAT? What makes one think they will not continue to relentlessly expand into Africa, Asia and Europe?

A zionist empire is probably the darkest nightmare we can all be confronted with, nevermind the current infiltration of US and large portions of western societies and not only as of now by said zionist cartel. Like i said another time, we have to give it to them that they are relentess and ruthless in pursuing their demented ideology, but they are not invincible nor unstoppable. But if no one rises to stop them, yesterday it was Palestine, today it is Iran and tomorrow it might be us. I shudder just thinking of such a future.
Some years ago, there was an article in an Israeli newspaper which claimed that the Pashtun people of Afghanistan and Pakistan are actually Israelites. The epilogue concluded with "one day, we will bring Israel to them".
 

drowingfish

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According to this twitter user, the U.S. may have stopped production of these transporters over a decade ago,

so any losses would be irretrievable, hampering Anglo Americans’ desired gotterdamarung against China.


i wonder if the MSS has sent in Chinese PLA trainers and observers to Iran.
nah Iran is very unlikely to do any serious damage to the US.

The only way this benefits China is by allowing them to gauge how quickly the US can surge a fleet into theatre, and how much firepower said fleet can bring to bear. observations made of american strikes can be used in wargaming of AR plans. should the effects of those strikes be assessed as manageable if used against China, then it would have a profound impact on Beijing's resolve to move forward with AR.
 
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