2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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plawolf

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But US are still tied there and they still fail to pivot to Asia.

Look at US Navy for example: first actual items of pivot to Asia, hyperzumwalts, are only entering service; most important single item - Constellations, won't come for years and has already failed.

By contrast, USN still adds LCS ships which are largely irrelevant for Westpac.

Basically, Iran tied US attention and inertia for long enough to let PLAN emerge as a peer. And with some luck, should we find that Iranians took June lessons to heart, US won't be able to extricate themselves out, but will get stuck deeper instead.

I.e. Iran for US is that hinge they are just stuck on. Pivoting and pivoting for a whole decade.

You are getting cause and effect mixed up. Iran isn’t what’s truly tying America to the ME, Israel is. America cannot extricate itself from the ME so long as Israel exists.

Israel’s nature means that it will never be satisfied. Already they are turning their eyes lustfully towards Egypt and Turkey.

So long as America’s daddy Israel exists, America will forever be anchored to the ME as muscle and piggy bank for daddy’s eternal and ever expanding dreams of conquest.
 

Gloire_bb

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You are getting cause and effect mixed up. Iran isn’t what’s truly tying America to the ME, Israel is. America cannot extricate itself from the ME so long as Israel exists.
While true, in military sense, the threat that's blocking USN pivot to the East for over a decade is still Iran.

There's literally no other military in the world which can justify this sort of COIN/Littoral escort/light coastal bombardment focus.

Of course, when it was conceptualized, China itself was same exact type of opponent, but it was already changing - and that was 25 years ago. Yet US navy is just stuck.
 
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sheogorath

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While true, in military sense, the threat that's blocking USN pivot to the East for over a decade is still Iran.

There's literally no other military in the world which can justify this sort of COIN/Littoral escort/light coastal bombardment focus.

Of course, when it was conceptualized, China itself was same exact type of opponent, but it was already changing - and that was 25 years ago. Yet US navy is just stuck.
Not really.

Watch the Saudis suddenly become a threat as well if Iran collapses, the Kurds, the Qataris. The key aspect of countries built on supremacists ideas is that you always need an enemy, an "eternal struggle" in which to rally people in order to maintain some semblance of cohesion.

The israelis will make up another "threat to their existence" as its part of their ideology and economic survival, as the only thing of note they produce is weapons, espionage systems and porn and unless you turn every woman and child in Israel into sex slaves, porn won't be sustaining their economy singlehandedly any time soon, so war it is.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Not really.

Watch the Saudis suddenly become a threat as well if Iran collapses, the Kurds, the Qataris. The key aspect of countries built on supremacists ideas is that you always need an enemy, an "eternal struggle" in which to rally people in order to maintain some semblance of cohesion.

The israelis will make up another "threat to their existence" as its part of their ideology and economic survival, as the only thing of note they produce is weapons, espionage systems and porn and unless you turn every woman and child in Israel into sex slaves, porn won't be sustaining their economy singlehandedly any time soon, so war it is.
They are already playing up turkey for a while as the next enemy, if i'm not mistaken.
 

sheogorath

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They are already playing up turkey for a while as the next enemy, if i'm not mistaken.
A tie in with the whole "Greater Israel" bs promoted by their fairy tales book

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Kind of Lebensraum-ish if you will. Even more funny when you think how much oil Turkey and their proxy Azerbaijan, sends to Israel, fueling that war machine that will eventually come for them.
 

mack8

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A tie in with the whole "Greater Israel" bs promoted by their fairy tales book

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Kind of Lebensraum-ish if you will. Even more funny when you think how much oil Turkey and their proxy Azerbaijan, sends to Israel, fueling that war machine that will eventually come for them.
If the zionist virus is not stopped, there are dark days ahead for humanity. We can look at the zionist regime as of now as the american 13 colonies moment. What happened after that? Genocide, ethic cleansing, extermination of the indigenous populations and a whole continent taken over. We have seen that the zionists have absolutely no remorse to follow the same path, in fact their demented ideology drives them to do just that. And after they finish exterminating the palestinians and take their land, and then if they continue with this "greater israel" lebensraum plan with an order of magnitude higher attrocities against the unfortunate local populations, what makes one think they will stop at THAT? What makes one think they will not continue to relentlessly expand into Africa, Asia and Europe?

A zionist empire is probably the darkest nightmare we can all be confronted with, nevermind the current infiltration of US and large portions of western societies and not only as of now by said zionist cartel. Like i said another time, we have to give it to them that they are relentess and ruthless in pursuing their demented ideology, but they are not invincible nor unstoppable. But if no one rises to stop them, yesterday it was Palestine, today it is Iran and tomorrow it might be us. I shudder just thinking of such a future.
 

Gloire_bb

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They are already playing up turkey for a while as the next enemy, if i'm not mistaken.
They're, but Turkey, even if, is a fully conventional opponent. Opposing Turkey doesn't require anything which won't be useful v China.

Iran was special as it tried and tries something utterly unconventional and assymetric at scale as for present era.
 

FriedButter

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Trump says he’s considering limited military strike against Iran​

President Donald Trump said Friday that he is considering limited military strikes to pressure Iran over its nuclear program.

“I guess I can say I am considering that,” Trump said when asked by a reporter at a White House breakfast with U.S. governors.

Trump said Thursday that he would make a decision in the next 10 to 15 days on whether to attack the Islamic Republic. He has left open the possibility that a deal could still be reached with Tehran over its nuclear program.

Trump has previously said an attack on Iran would be “far worse” than the limited strikes launched by the U.S. in June against its nuclear facilities.

Oil prices were stable Friday after rallying more than 5% this week as traders price in some risk of imminent U.S. military action. U.S. crude oil fell 28 cents to $66.15 per barrel by 10:39 a.m. ET. Global benchmark Brent was down 23 cents at $71.43 per barrel.

A massive U.S. military buildup is underway in the Middle East. The USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier is in the region. A second aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald Ford, is en route.

The oil market’s biggest fear is that a conflict between the U.S. and Iran could lead to a prolonged disruption of oil flows through the Strait of Hormuz.

The strait is a vital chokepoint for the global oil trade. More than 14 million barrels per day of oil and condensates passed through the narrow waterway on average in 2025, according to data from consulting firm Kpler, which says that amount accounts for a third of total worldwide seaborne oil exports.

About three-quarters of the oil that passes through the strait goes to China, India, Japan and South Korea, according to Kpler.

The only thing MAGA 2.0 has left is Iran after the destruction of the tariff. policy
 
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