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proelite

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The 0 value in the FT is likely a definitional change and/or some regulatory evasion but the general directionality: an atrocious sentiment and business environment that has frozen equity investment in high-risk innovative businesses

In many people's opinion, this would be called a smart diversion of resources to more productive forces. If something turns out to be a money printer elsewhere China can simply copy the idea domestically and beat the other company to global expansion.

Chinese startups getting locked out of the 90% of the world that is not China is quite bad for them, as would be the deleterious effect of downstream firms that use Chinese startup inputs to improve business practices since they would have to
1) buy foreign and when Chinese startups get there, reconfigure their business, at substantial cost, to support local protectionism or
2) go without new innovation and run less efficient businesses or
3) wait for Chinese startups to develop (but if they have local protectionism - startups will have no incentive to innovate); and thus have more inefficient business practices

The US is 90% of the world? what?
 

HighGround

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In many people's opinion, this would be called a smart diversion of resources to more productive forces. If something turns out to be a money printer elsewhere China can simply copy the idea domestically and beat the other company to global expansion.

This is about private equity. What are you diverting and where?

The US is 90% of the world? what?

US + EU + Japan and SK is like 30-35% of China's exports destination. But downstream wise, large portion of exports to Vietnam ultimately head to a US/EU, same with Hong Kong and other ASEAN countries.

But trade will never go down to zero. The big deal is that many of the advanced and high value products will want to be exported towards high value markets. The threat of bans and trade wars creates uncertainty and friction. Smart (private) money will want to wait until this trade uncertainty is over before investing.

I'm not dooming and glooming, but when assessing China's strengths and weaknesses, this limitation on China's private equity is not a good thing. China would be even better off if had more private equity investment. This is an unfortunate casualty of the US trade war, but the Chinese gov. should do more to address this. It also feeds into private spending and consumption as well. All of these things are ultimaetly interconnected.
 

proelite

Senior Member
I'm not dooming and glooming, but when assessing China's strengths and weaknesses, this limitation on China's private equity is not a good thing. China would be even better off if had more private equity investment. This is an unfortunate casualty of the US trade war, but the Chinese gov. should do more to address this. It also feeds into private spending and consumption as well. All of these things are ultimaetly interconnected.

As you stated, China is in an economic war right now. It's not the normal environment for businesses. The ultimate end is climbing up the value chain and breaking out of American economic suppression. Whatever means that not available for doing so, i.e. private equity / smart money, will be substituted with state money and funding.

In a life/death competition between nations, internal competition between corporations takes a back seat. Many inventions and breakthroughs were made during times of war, so as long as there is competition there will be growth.
 

chgough34

Junior Member
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I'm asking why would China be locked out of 90% of the world.
It would miss first mover and network advantages; the RoW would be locked into firms that are first to market (not Chinese startups in this scenario). Examples would include things like Google and Windows - those search and OS products are functional monopolies in the world ex-China, more or less, entirely traceable to them being the first to market with what were then highly innovative ideas (with Google, the idea of placing ads based on keyword search to facilitate market making: with Windows, a point and click UI on top of an OS that made it usable to laymen without having to memorize 500 Unix commands on a CLI)
 
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