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manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Quote it then, asshole.
Here you go, raging manchild:

"If spilling blood and burning treasure is too extreme for our liking then why not sanction Israel?"

This is what you answered when asked who's going to pay for the blood and resources. You didn't answer that you did not advocate military intervention; you answered this to imply that you can accept a toned down reponse to just (useless) sanctions if spilling blood and burning treasure were too much.

"What will realistically happen in consequence? Is China going to sanction Israel? Enforce a two state solution? Military intervention to stop genocide?"

Again, you put the military option on the table, twice, because enforcing a 2 state solution can only be done with force.

"Why should we tolerate a genocide happening in front of our eyes? Are Palestinians not people, not human beings? Inaction here goes beyond risk aversion, it's cowardice."

You ask why we tolerate it. Which means that we shouldn't tolerate it. How do you not tolerate it? You stop it. So you were either too stupid to realize that sanctions won't stop Israel (in which case you'd have to tolerate it nonetheless) or you were implying that in order to "not tolerate it," you would escalate to military intervention.
I admit that my opinion was not based on realpolitik
AKA being a manchild...
but don't fucking put words I didn't say into my mouth.
OK, I'll put your own words back in your mouth.
Additionally, if what you say is true, then the Palestinians are as good as dead.
... Right now, I don't see how they can survive and keep their land. They didn't prepare for this conflict and there are no forces in the world that can save them. Muslim countries are too scattered to band together against Israel. As things are going, they will probably lose their land and survive as refugees across the world.
 
I think reducing MIC corruption and inefficiencies and following a more rational procurement strategy would go much further than pumping more dollars in. But of course, to do so would antagonize a large segment of their own power base. I'd daresay at most half of US military spending is actually about enhancing military capabilities.
 

pmc

Colonel
Registered Member
Let me know if you prefer the overengineering of American cars vs. a Soviet Lada when Вова пил немного водка
Those overengineering cars got US involved in Mideast and let to rise of Japan who is now key player in Boeing. and it is the same logic that applies to much faster deeper dependence on Mexico. Neither Gulf Arabs nor Israelis buy US made automobiles and that is object failure. Even Afghans could maintain Soviet cars on mass scale as they used it as taxi.
These vehicles were designed for dirt roads with much narrower and shorter body. I would think this dirt roads helped in climate. much less heat generation. Even today the vehicles that sell well have that narrow body, shorter wheel base, (make snow tires cheaper) and high ground clearance with manual transmission. fundamental objective did not change. These vehicles are cheaper to repair as they dont have electronics in body or windshield.

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tokenanalyst

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I think reducing MIC corruption and inefficiencies and following a more rational procurement strategy would go much further than pumping more dollars in. But of course, to do so would antagonize a large segment of their own power base. I'd daresay at most half of US military spending is actually about enhancing military capabilities.
Is all about politicking, worthless emotions, the money and the votes. Is never about cutting fat or even using diplomacy as a tool to solve issues. A good decent diplomat it maybe could save D.C. billions of wasted dollars. Crazy idea I know.
 

Index

Senior Member
Registered Member
Here you go, raging manchild:

"If spilling blood and burning treasure is too extreme for our liking then why not sanction Israel?"

This is what you answered when asked who's going to pay for the blood and resources. You didn't answer that you did not advocate military intervention; you answered this to imply that you can accept a toned down reponse to just (useless) sanctions if spilling blood and burning treasure were too much.

"What will realistically happen in consequence? Is China going to sanction Israel? Enforce a two state solution? Military intervention to stop genocide?"

Again, you put the military option on the table, twice, because enforcing a 2 state solution can only be done with force.

"Why should we tolerate a genocide happening in front of our eyes? Are Palestinians not people, not human beings? Inaction here goes beyond risk aversion, it's cowardice."

You ask why we tolerate it. Which means that we shouldn't tolerate it. How do you not tolerate it? You stop it. So you were either too stupid to realize that sanctions won't stop Israel (in which case you'd have to tolerate it nonetheless) or you were implying that in order to "not tolerate it," you would escalate to military intervention.

AKA being a manchild...

OK, I'll put your own words back in your mouth.

... Right now, I don't see how they can survive and keep their land. They didn't prepare for this conflict and there are no forces in the world that can save them. Muslim countries are too scattered to band together against Israel. As things are going, they will probably lose their land and survive as refugees across the world.
China should never rule out increased defenses for Palestine either. It's nowhere near a foregone conclusion that they lose. There's already a decent diaspora, there's people in the west bank. There's Arab Israeli citizens. Israel does not have the ability or even plans to get rid of all native semites within at least 10 years. Worries that Palestine will become like truly successfully genocided people are for now unfounded.

The way I see it, China needs to humble the Arabs first. Arabs have shamefully allowed themselves to be colonized. They must reverse their mentality, otherwise, any significant boons to the Palestinian cause will be wasted by people who don't have the willpower to fight.

But whenever the situation presents wherein China can inflict maximum pain on America through tough action on Israel, Beijing should not hesitate to execute it. The whole reason China is involved in the ME to begin with is to curtail American threat, not stop locals from attacking other locals. The Arab cause simply aligns as the one that is most useful right now.
 

GZDRefugee

Senior Member
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This is what you answered when asked who's going to pay for the blood and resources. You didn't answer that you did not advocate military intervention; you answered this to imply that you can accept a toned down reponse to just (useless) sanctions if spilling blood and burning treasure were too much.
If spilling blood and burning treasure is too extreme for our liking then why not sanction Israel? Anything is better than doing nothing. The problem is, nothing besides empty words and platitudes is being done.
Quote the whole post rather than truncate it for your agenda. I stated that even a symbolic action is better than just offering thoughts and prayers. Just like how No First Use is completely unenforceable but is still foundational to China's development of conventionally tipped ICBM.
Again, you put the military option on the table, twice, because enforcing a 2 state solution can only be done with force.
So uh, I'm gonna be blunt here. What will realistically happen in consequence? Is China going to sanction Israel? Enforce a two state solution? Military intervention to stop genocide?

I think we all know the answers to these rhetorical questions. However, sometimes I wish that the CPC had the stones to actually do something abroad. Instead, we will sit here and watch as another peoples suffer the same things our ancestors suffered at the hands of the IJA. If the only thing we do is pay lip service to condemn blatant crimes against humanity, then I don't think China is ready to be a leader in "mutually prosperous world" nor will other nations see China as a leader.
Again, cutting out context. I even describe the questions as rhetorical because of PRC's non-interference policy. The CPC will not commit to any of the things I listed.
You ask why we tolerate it. Which means that we shouldn't tolerate it. How do you not tolerate it? You stop it. So you were either too stupid to realize that sanctions won't stop Israel (in which case you'd have to tolerate it nonetheless) or you were implying that in order to "not tolerate it," you would escalate to military intervention.
No, military force is not the only way to exert pressure to get what you want. Unrestricted Warfare was written explicitly for that reason. The current SCS gray zone actions is evidence that you can impose your will upon other nations without escalating immediately to shooting.
AKA being a manchild...
Ad hominem? Really?
Realpolitik has its place but are you really suggesting that morality and ethics should have no place in international relations? Is a system that functions strictly on ruthless pragmatism the best or even the most desirable?
OK, I'll put your own words back in your mouth.
Quoting a tailored except of what I said is no better.
Right now, I don't see how they can survive and keep their land. They didn't prepare for this conflict and there are no forces in the world that can save them. Muslim countries are too scattered to band together against Israel. As things are going, they will probably lose their land and survive as refugees across the world.
I posted this vid by a Muslim geopolitical analyst earlier.

Thoughts?
Can you dispute what he says?
 

supercat

Colonel
Hopefully, this is the last hurrah of both Nikki Hailey and the US empire.

I'm shocked, shocked that the vast majority of British media's report about China is negative!
And interestingly whilst you often hear the media defend themselves by saying they criticise "the government, not the people", the study found that's not the case at all: "it is China, not (just) the Communist Party of China, that is framed negatively in the British media".

This is unmitigated gaslighting. The DPP stoops to violence once they became the minority at the Legislative Yuan. The current street "protests" organized by the DPP will degenerate into riots just like the "Sunflower movement". So actually, the DPP is the anti-democracy one.

I'm posting this article here for entertainment and posterity. The moronic author obviously lives in a parallel universe in the 1990s.

China’s Quixotic Quest to Innovate​

A Statist Economy Can’t Foster Creativity

By George Magnus

May 29, 2024
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The reality about China's innovation:

Chinese scientists cure diabetes using stem cells in world first​

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A politician with the right priorities in mind, folks. Forget fixing the waste in the department of "defense", you have to keep happy the companies that will charge Uncle Sam 50,000 dollars for a stupid toilet.

US politicians:
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Reality:
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That senator proposal is to increase defense spending to 5% of GDP
More humans and animals just found out why Americans don't have free healthcare.
 

TK3600

Colonel
Registered Member
I dont think Palestinians are doomed yet. If they were, Israel would not hesitate to make it.

Other Arabs and Iranians, they have room to compromise with Americans and Israel. Palestinians have unresolvable dispute with Israel, so they are valuable.
 
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