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GZDRefugee

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Today's pathetic Arabs buy weapons from the Christians and sit there like fat piles of shit enjoying the profits of their oil while they are powerless and without even the fighting spirit to defend their fellow Muslims in a Genocide. Israel, USA, any European country could beat Saudi Arabia's ass in a war if they wanted to. They have no power today but are only useless fat lap dogs.
The Arab people just need to go all in and side with the preeminent economy which effectively also makes the strongest superpower of today. Use only yuan for transfers, restrict US access to resources, pursue robust, "prefabricated homemade" military developments ala Iran, and share said weapons, intel and covert ops with friendly nations globally.
If you had watched the video, the guy goes into how the things @Index listed are exactly what is happening. The Houthis are taking overt military action while SA, Iran, UAE, and Egypt basically gave them carte blanche. Egypt and Jordan also threatening to close US bases if Palestinians are expelled.
 

manqiangrexue

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If there's context that relates to the quote, then it should be included. I mean sure you can quote something without context, then prepare to get fucked when someone actually goes and looks at what you quoted.
I did include your context and you're still wrong because of what you said in those sentences.
"All warfare is based" -Sun Tzu
And this prove how desperate and wrong you are. You literally chopped this man's sentence in half. On the otherhand, what I did is quote a whole sentence. And when we see people quote Sun Tzu, they typically quote 1 sentence, not everything he wrote like you wanted.
Who knows, perhaps a symbolic gesture by a major power will snowball. Suppose the US sanctions Israel, can the Israeli continue to indiscriminately kill Palestinians?
LOLOLOL You and your dreams. Who knows, maybe world leaders read this forum and will be so touched by you, they'll all nuke Israel...
There is always a point where cost cannot be sustained. If the entire fucking planet was hellbent on preventing Palestinian genocide, are you suggesting that Israel will fight everyone?
No, because they'd be hellbent and that means militarily. However, if they all used words and sanctions and could not militarily intervene, Isreal itself has said that even with the whole world against it, it will not stop.
You called me and I quote "dickhead".
You quote incorrectly. Pull that passage up. I said I didn't want to treat you like the anti-China dickheads but I will if you push me.
  1. Statements about Muslim disunity come from pro-Zionist sources
I did not read those form pro-zionist forces. I simply look at the fact that a genocide is happening in Palestine and nobody will fight Israel. Even Iran will only do 1 exchange, and with that, there was talk of Saudis blocking Iran's attack. That's disunity.
  1. Contrary to said pro-Zionist sources the ME has been increasingly exercising their sovereignty and independence for years now
That has no meaning. Different Muslim groups have beef with each other and will not band together to fight Isreal, the common enemy of Muslims. That is disunity.
  1. The Muslim nations in the region have been supporting Palestine and have contributed the most aid compared to the rest of the world
They'd be giving it to dead people if they can't pull it together and fight against a genocide. Everybody can give some aid; but who can fight? That is what Palestine needs.
 

manqiangrexue

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Air strikes require planes and airfields, which are weak to being destroyed by waves of advanced munitions launched from nearby countries. Israel is a 10 compared to Palestinian 1, but Russia is a 100 and China is 1000, if there is a will to punish Israel from the outside, there is a way. And if America is gonna be aggressive in other parts of the world, no sense in ruling out kicking them in their crown jewels to retaliate.

How many victories did the khazarian people win in the holy land before they found a superpower willing to endorse their claim in exchange for fealty?

The Arab people just need to go all in and side with the preeminent economy which effectively also makes the strongest superpower of today. Use only yuan for transfers, restrict US access to resources, pursue robust, "prefabricated homemade" military developments ala Iran, and share said weapons, intel and covert ops with friendly nations globally.

I don't think we disagree on that much, what I'm saying is that China can let Arabs stew until Arabs actually show that they've learned which power they should side with. And I'm also saying Israel can't erase Palestinians in at least several decades, if ever.

Sure there is humanitarian disaster but unless Arabic countries choose the right side of history, more children will keep dying.
Your premise on what China can do to Israel or the US is hazy at best. What exactly are you proposing? Not military action, right? It's not time yet as long as China's military grows faster than America's.

Secondly, I've said it and I'll say it again. Muslim nations need to unite and go all in. This is their fight. Nobody will risk everything for them if they don't risk it all for themselves. All in means all in, no infighting, no baby steps. Leaders of every Muslim country and every Muslim combat force shaking hands, and declaring all out war on Israel is what it would take. What they are scrapping together now is far far not enough.
 
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manqiangrexue

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you just dont see it what is important for them and why they want to engage some one to create distractions.
It seems what's important for them is living like a rich man's fat dog with no ability to fight. If the Zionist US hits a kill switch, all Saudi shit stops moving and falls out of the sky. This is a distraction to them being weak compared to Salahuddin's true hard power which struck fear in the hearts of Christians.
let any one try attack Saudi and see what happens. Saudis are much tougher than Kuwaits.
LOLOL Nobody said Kuwaits. They're useless too. If the US wanted to attack Saudi Arabia, every piece of equipment bought from the US would stop working and Americans would walk in to a country without a military. Any Western country can ask the US the same thing if they had to fight the Saudis for the Western interest. So don't try that tough guy bullshit; "see what happens" is what anybody can say. You can say this to Tyson over the computer, but in real life we all know what will happen.
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Pathetic Muslim disunity
 

pmc

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LOLOL Nobody said Kuwaits. They're useless too. If the US wanted to attack Saudi Arabia, every piece of equipment bought from the US would stop working and Americans would walk in to a country without a military. Any Western country can ask the US the same thing if they had to fight the Saudis for the Western interest. So don't try that tough guy bullshit; "see what happens" is what anybody can say. You can say this to Tyson over the computer, but in real life we all know what will happen.
this is strong Soft Power that enable them to get invited to BRICS and still US want to have defense deals. They are wealthy because they are sophisticated and complex. When they get mad Toyota show up.
look up history. they always force policies that engage West in Mideast.

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manqiangrexue

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this is strong Soft Power
LOL You have confused soft power with soft belly, which is what they have.
that enable them to get invited to BRICS
You know how many countries were invited to BRICS?? We almost let nutjob Argentina in! BRICS is China's power; Saudis can be in or out and it would be the same.
and still US want to have defense deals.
Buying weapons from the Christians that the Christians can shut off at will. Retards.
They are wealthy because they are sophisticated and complex.
They are wealthy because they have oil and crawl like a dog to the US instead of standing up to its power. This is only sophisticated and complex to the mentally disabled.
When they get mad Toyota show up.
When Salahuddin gets mad, Christians disappear. That's power.
look up history. they always force policies that engage West in Mideast.
That's because the US is strong and Saudis hug their leg.
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So what is the effect? Nothing.
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Selling trucks they didn't even make is considered soft power? LOL Saudis couldn't make a bicycle if you put all their brains together in one jar... in one 8oz jar LOLOL
 
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Ad hominem? Really?
Realpolitik has its place but are you really suggesting that morality and ethics should have no place in international relations? Is a system that functions strictly on ruthless pragmatism the best or even the most desirable?

Morality and ethics should have a place in international relations. It would be desirable for morality and place in international relations. However, in reality morality and ethics have no place in international relations, and ruthless pragmatism always dominates. No country wants to be the first country to be guided by morality and ethics while every other country in the world is guided by geopolitical realism.

Who knows, perhaps a symbolic gesture by a major power will snowball. Suppose the US sanctions Israel, can the Israeli continue to indiscriminately kill Palestinians?
There is always a point where cost cannot be sustained. If the entire fucking planet was hellbent on preventing Palestinian genocide, are you suggesting that Israel will fight everyone?

I think you are correct. Therefore, wouldn't the rational course of action be for you to lobby really hard for the US to sanction Israel (perhaps join the millions of protestors across US college campuses), rather than sitting in your room demanding China to do something?

I'm no expert on Islam but here's what I see:

1. The number of Muslim kids who are high achievers in the US educational system is very low.
2. The number of Muslims who dedicate a large portion of their lives to religious activities is very high, maybe lower than in history, but still very high.
3. There are no technologically-advanced Muslim countries.

Secondly, I've said it and I'll say it again. Muslim nations need to unite and go all in. This is their fight. Nobody will risk everything for them if they don't risk it all for themselves. All in means all in, no infighting, no baby steps. Leaders of every Muslim country and every Muslim combat force shaking hands, and declaring all out war on Israel is what it would take. What they are scrapping together now is far far not enough.

I don't think its fair to put most of the blame on religion and culture. Most Muslim countries have been victims of imperialism and colonialism for centuries, and as a result have a complete lack of experience with building and maintaining strong institutions. Furthermore, as with all countries to have had their borders defined by the British (and other colonial powers), Muslim states have been divided in a manner to intentionally maximize divisiveness and minimize unity. I would pin the overwhelming majority of the blame for the plight of Muslim nations today due to imperialism and colonialism. Hui in China are not held back by their religion, they are productive citizens living in a modern, secular society.

The way I see it, China needs to humble the Arabs first. Arabs have shamefully allowed themselves to be colonized. They must reverse their mentality, otherwise, any significant boons to the Palestinian cause will be wasted by people who don't have the willpower to fight.
Most non-Europeans suffered colonization. The only nations to have avoided total colonization have been: China, Japan, Thailand, Turkey, and Iran (although they did suffer from a brief yet full occupation perpetuated jointly by their two main imperial antagonists, the British and Russians). And with the exception of Japan, even those countries suffered greatly from colonialism/imperialism, particularly at the hands of the British and Russians.

Sure there is humanitarian disaster but unless Arabic countries choose the right side of history, more children will keep dying.
Unfortunately the choice is made by the elites of those countries, not the common people.
 
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And I saw a news report charging China hasn't shown it actually firing insinuating it was just show and didn't really work as claimed. You know when the West really goes ape-shit? When one of those humanoid robots uses a finger to pull a trigger.
These are really game changing for urban warfare. You can potentially clear out a high-rise building with a fleet of these with minimal human casualties.
 
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