Z-10 thread

[Blitzo]

Landing lights are absolute necessity and are a standard on all helicopters like it was mentioned.

No one lands with a FLIR, all FLIR's have digital or optical zoom which makes it hard to land with them especially since you can not overlook the ground when it is zoomed in right beneath you. NVG of helmets have also a problem, they only cover a smaller field of view than the human eye and the green spectrum distorts the field of depth which makes it difficulter to land.

It obligates to the pilot if he uses NVG or Landing Light or like the rest of the pilots they see the remaining light as sufficient.

Landing lights are also typical on aircraft such as fighters, transport planes, commercial airliners, although they're not always used. Carrierborne fighters often will use low visibility slime lights instead, and helicopters operating off flat tops do the same I believe.

Some newer transport planes such as the A400M, Kawasaki C-2 and Y-20 feature an inbuilt EVS which is basically a dedicated flight FLIR which I think can be used to assist landing/takeoff and flight without the need for using landing lights.

I think the PVNS of helicopters can also assist take off/landing and flight if the situation calls for no landing lights (such as landing and taking off in hostile territory)

 

[Black Shark]

I think the PVNS of helicopters can also assist take off/landing and flight if the situation calls for no landing lights (such as landing and taking off in hostile territory)

Yes, PVNS like NVG can be used, but in comperision with true light from a landing light they distort the FOV and FOD which can bring complications during landing and that is not a question about training it just safety reasons, they are there for a reason.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

Also consider that NVG has no depth perception. A pilot looking through a window below him trying to gauge how high he is relative to his terrain through NGV's can't tell thirty thousand from three feet.
and Even military Choppers are not in the military environment all the time When they fly around there home bases they are often sharing they sky with civil craft. It's just best to have landing lights.

 

[by78]

Another look at the Chinese HMS for attack helicopters. Too bad there are that many images of this available. Does anyone have any info. on these helmets such as specs, etc.?

 

[Scratch]

Also consider that NVG has no depth perception. A pilot looking through a window below him trying to gauge how high he is relative to his terrain through NGV's can't tell thirty thousand from three feet.

Well I imagine that modern AH helmets, including in China, use stereoscopic NVGs, so there will be depth perception. I mean these stereoscopic ones are rather common nowadays even for ground troops.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

I know that the panoramic Night vision system used in the use by US forces offers some Depth perception but factor in resolution and it's still nothing compared to the naked eye.

 

[Domino]

A number of news outlets have been reporting this since Friday and some are saying that they are in transit onboard Chinese cargo plane let's wait and see as we have heard these type of deals before

I have been waiting for picture none so far but Turkey agreed to give 3 units of T-129 to Pakistan so China doing that with Z-10 is not out of the ordinary

I hope this news is true and these units are used as test bed for test and evaluation before a final order of 50-60 x Z-10 is put in

In addition I hope pakistan establishes like a production line similar to JF-17 but for Z-10 attack helos

I am sure such a deal would also benefit China as it would provide a steady stream of data and analysis from a Z-10 in combat

Though no pictures, But local media reported couple weeks back a 12 member Chinese delegation handed 2 WZ-10 to Brigadier Ijaz of Pakistan Army.

 

[Rauf]

If not mistaken, 3rd unit is being used for training of PA. Also if PA likes the Heli, it will have to buy the units it needs / wants. If PA orders more units, in such case "not sure how accurate the info is", the original three are counted as gifts.

 

[asif iqbal]

In that case congrats to Sino-Pak for another milestone!

Although I would wait for some confirmation the Z-10 is the perfect choice for Pakistan army and only China can provided such a unit with support due to the all weather friendship

It would be fantastic if Pakistan can establish a ToT for local assembly like we we doing with JF-17 to eventfully field a few aviation squadrons of attack helicopters

As China rises it's friends next door also benefit

 

[asif iqbal]

As time goes on China is doing more and more excercises with Z-10 over the sea

So no question that they are looking at a naval version of Z-10

They are probably testing equipment, avionics and radar coverage over sea

Addition of flotation devices, new anti corrosive paint, and more aids for landing are a must for naval Z-10

Check it out !!

We have seen Z-10 flying over LST now I hope to see Z-10 on Type 071 LPD and soon the new LHD/LHA