Yuan Class AIP & Kilo Submarine Thread

[KIENCHIN]

@KampfAlwin same here bro, and also the combat management and control system, I had seen inside photo of YUAN and I'm not impress compared to the European Sub, the placement of those consoles and the ergonomics design is lacking, hope in this new sub those concern had been rectify.

I think you may have mistaken photos of the Song control consoles for

@KampfAlwin same here bro, and also the combat management and control system, I had seen inside photo of YUAN and I'm not impress compared to the European Sub, the placement of those consoles and the ergonomics design is lacking, hope in this new sub those concern had been rectify.

I think you may have mistaken photos of the Song for the Yuan class submarine. I maybe wrong but the Chinese are very careful when it comes to showing stuff like these, cheers bro.

 

[Jiang ZeminFanboy]

So start of 039C production begins? Wonder how many we will see.

 

[Totoro]

Well, replacing the Ming class is a given. So a dozen or so. (depending on how many are actually left in service) Of course, longer term replacements may also include Song and some of the Kilos. But by then, approaching the 2030s, we may also see overall number of conventional subs in the fleet drop, in favor of more nuclear subs.

Though, depending on just how complex this new variant is, it may still take a few years until full scale serial production begins. It may be that first full trials will be waited for before multiple boats are laid down.

 

[plawolf]

Wondering about the chinned or notched sails....

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New notch sail design on "039C" also points to the sighting of notch sail on the "093A" to not be a fluke and that there is a new design trend going on. The main difference is where on the sail the notch is, low on the 093A and high on the "039C", but somewhat on the middle on the A26.


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The placement of the notches as well as their slopping should give some insight into the designed cruise speeds of the respective subs, as the notching is designed to help reduce flow noise generated by the sail displacing water.

As a general rule, the higher the notch, the faster the design speed, which makes sense since 039Cs have AIP, which should give greater endurance and speeds compared to battery power alone or even earlier end AIPs.

 

[by78]

A Youtube video of that new submarine.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

She arrived in Shanghai today, we should not wait for long to have the sharper photos. From Henri K

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1406617296743796742

 

[SpicySichuan]

She arrived in Shanghai today, we should not wait for long to have the sharper photos. From Henri K

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1406617296743796742

Could someone please remind me if there are other submarines with this kind of conning tower?

 

[Hendrik_2000]

Could someone please remind me if there are other submarines with this kind of conning tower?

Yup new Swedish Blekinge class

 

[Totoro]

Worth mentioning that Blekinge class subs are still being built and have not yet been launched.

 

[ansy1968]

Yup new Swedish Blekinge class
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@Hendrik_2000 bro comparing Henri K picture it has the same protruding backside end with A26 that may deploy a towed array sonar or a mechanism? Compare the previous YUAN variants its squarish rather than round.