Hendrik_2000
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I guess they are more self confidence with their product and willing to show more of their line up
Interesting is their proposal for mono hull sub probably reflecting advance in design and metallurgy in recent year
Henri K take on the new export submarine as shown in Bangkok naval trade show
Following the sale of and , the Chinese naval group CSIC continues to push its pawns and expand its offerings for this segment of the global arms market that is both geo-politically sensitive and above all very lucrative.
It is through its subsidiary China Shipbuilding Company and Offshore International Company (CSOC) that the Chinese state group unveiled, during the Defense & Security 2017 exhibition which took place from November 6 to 9 in Bangkok, its three new -marines entirely dedicated to the export.
And it's not three totally different products to each other, but a new family of conventional submarines ranging from 200 tons for the smallest and up to 1,100 tons for the largest, to be able to address varied operational needs and portfolios of different sizes of potential clients.
Except for the smaller model called MS200, CSIC now offers a range of Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) vectors on the market today. According to a video presentation of the Chinese group, several countries have already shown interest, among which include the name of Algeria, Cuba, Egypt, Libya, Burma, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Venezuela.
The MS200 submarine (in the background) of 200t for special operations, and its 600ft AIP propulsion grnad (Photo © Navy Recognition)
The seven-blade propeller of the new submarine range of the CSIC Group (Photo © Navy Recognition)
The new S1100 export submarine of 1 100t (foreground) and the S26T for the Thai navy (Photo © Navy Recognition)
The photos taken in Bangkok by our partners show that the Chinese industrialist finally leaves out their "love" for double-hull submarines, a long-standing legacy from the Soviet era, and returns to the mono-hull design. On the other hand, this shows the progress made in recent years by the country in terms of materials and a set of associated technologies.
The massif of these three new Chinese submarines also seems to have benefited from the latest research in hydrodynamics and acoustics of the Institut 701, CSIC group's main research bureau on surface and submarine off-nuclear vessels, and is taking over the trapezoidal shape already observed on the new ships of the last batch of Chinese Navy Type 039B attack diesel submarine.
This further reduces noise underwater and thus improves the survivability of buildings. Aligned purges, as on some of the new submarines such as the Japanese Navy's Sōryū class, also show the constant effort of the Chinese to reduce the acoustic level of their vessels underwater.
On the other hand, this new range of Chinese submarines has still not adopted X-shaped bars (in Saint Andrew's cross), which lead to better effect in navigation, nor pump-propeller which is quieter compared to the propellers. conventional, while research papers and published material suggested that new Chinese buildings of the new generation should
A former Chinese naval technical officer also pointed out that Chinese manufacturers are becoming not only more transparent in the performance of their products, but also much more confident in their dealings with prospects and competitors. He also said that the data are almost identical, in some respects, between the S26T for Thailand and the Type 039B used by the Chinese Navy.
But the transparency of CSIC could perhaps be explained by the imminent arrival, if not already done, of a new class of Chinese AIP submarine Type 039C , which would be "much more advanced" than its predecessor Type 039B still according to the same source of the Chinese navy. A habit that has been observed for a long time among the Chinese who allow themselves to reveal the products of an older generation when a new is on the way.
Apart from submarines whose design and performance are close to those of other traditional marine powers, the Chinese industry is also working on its level of services to better compete with the usual players in this market, namely Russia, France, Germany, Japan and South Korea.
In addition to longer-term warranties on building maintenance and availability of spare parts, as well as a comprehensive package to train customer submariners by the Chinese Navy, CSIC also offers to help their customers build ground infrastructure to support the activities of submarines, as Thailand might do if we believe in some local sources.
For customers with a lower budget or lower operational requirements, older submarines removed from active duty by the Chinese Navy and retrofitted are another possible solution. The Bangladeshi Navy, for example, received two Type 035G class submarines in November 2016 for a mere $ 200 million.
Henri K.
Interesting is their proposal for mono hull sub probably reflecting advance in design and metallurgy in recent year
Henri K take on the new export submarine as shown in Bangkok naval trade show
Following the sale of and , the Chinese naval group CSIC continues to push its pawns and expand its offerings for this segment of the global arms market that is both geo-politically sensitive and above all very lucrative.
It is through its subsidiary China Shipbuilding Company and Offshore International Company (CSOC) that the Chinese state group unveiled, during the Defense & Security 2017 exhibition which took place from November 6 to 9 in Bangkok, its three new -marines entirely dedicated to the export.
And it's not three totally different products to each other, but a new family of conventional submarines ranging from 200 tons for the smallest and up to 1,100 tons for the largest, to be able to address varied operational needs and portfolios of different sizes of potential clients.
Except for the smaller model called MS200, CSIC now offers a range of Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) vectors on the market today. According to a video presentation of the Chinese group, several countries have already shown interest, among which include the name of Algeria, Cuba, Egypt, Libya, Burma, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Venezuela.
The MS200 submarine (in the background) of 200t for special operations, and its 600ft AIP propulsion grnad (Photo © Navy Recognition)
The seven-blade propeller of the new submarine range of the CSIC Group (Photo © Navy Recognition)
The new S1100 export submarine of 1 100t (foreground) and the S26T for the Thai navy (Photo © Navy Recognition)
The photos taken in Bangkok by our partners show that the Chinese industrialist finally leaves out their "love" for double-hull submarines, a long-standing legacy from the Soviet era, and returns to the mono-hull design. On the other hand, this shows the progress made in recent years by the country in terms of materials and a set of associated technologies.
The massif of these three new Chinese submarines also seems to have benefited from the latest research in hydrodynamics and acoustics of the Institut 701, CSIC group's main research bureau on surface and submarine off-nuclear vessels, and is taking over the trapezoidal shape already observed on the new ships of the last batch of Chinese Navy Type 039B attack diesel submarine.
This further reduces noise underwater and thus improves the survivability of buildings. Aligned purges, as on some of the new submarines such as the Japanese Navy's Sōryū class, also show the constant effort of the Chinese to reduce the acoustic level of their vessels underwater.
On the other hand, this new range of Chinese submarines has still not adopted X-shaped bars (in Saint Andrew's cross), which lead to better effect in navigation, nor pump-propeller which is quieter compared to the propellers. conventional, while research papers and published material suggested that new Chinese buildings of the new generation should
A former Chinese naval technical officer also pointed out that Chinese manufacturers are becoming not only more transparent in the performance of their products, but also much more confident in their dealings with prospects and competitors. He also said that the data are almost identical, in some respects, between the S26T for Thailand and the Type 039B used by the Chinese Navy.
But the transparency of CSIC could perhaps be explained by the imminent arrival, if not already done, of a new class of Chinese AIP submarine Type 039C , which would be "much more advanced" than its predecessor Type 039B still according to the same source of the Chinese navy. A habit that has been observed for a long time among the Chinese who allow themselves to reveal the products of an older generation when a new is on the way.
Apart from submarines whose design and performance are close to those of other traditional marine powers, the Chinese industry is also working on its level of services to better compete with the usual players in this market, namely Russia, France, Germany, Japan and South Korea.
In addition to longer-term warranties on building maintenance and availability of spare parts, as well as a comprehensive package to train customer submariners by the Chinese Navy, CSIC also offers to help their customers build ground infrastructure to support the activities of submarines, as Thailand might do if we believe in some local sources.
For customers with a lower budget or lower operational requirements, older submarines removed from active duty by the Chinese Navy and retrofitted are another possible solution. The Bangladeshi Navy, for example, received two Type 035G class submarines in November 2016 for a mere $ 200 million.
Henri K.
