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kwaigonegin

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There is a lot more to this than meets the eye...both on the part of the specific actors, and on the overall geo-political front.

Here's another issue that pre-dates the New York one where the Indian government has detained a US owned, private security vessel that was conducting anti-piracy activities in the IO:

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Lot more going on than meets the eye. Perhaps now the US has something to negotiate for the release of those 35 crew members. At the same time...it should never have come to this on either side. The US had been making huge progeress with India in terms of bilateral ties. I just think the Obama administration has been a disater on foreign affiars across the board.

I lived in Montana for several years. Max Baucus is a complete ideological neophite. Thank goodness in MOntana at the time, we had a counter to him in the Sneate and they in essence cancelled each other out. But Baucus was selected because of his absolute and complete political loyalty, irrespective of the consequences of the poltical plans they have.

Just read that quote you included, and think about what has happened to US Health Care, trade, finance, and the economy since 2007. I wouldn't put any of the people who have been in charge of those things in the last 6 years in charge of ANYTHING critical.

Unelss of course you want them to make as big a mess of that thing as they have of those others.

IMHO the US ambassador to China is one of the most important jobs in the U.S. Department of State and will becoming increasingly more so going forward as China becomes more economically viable and their dominance in the Pacific and the world continues to grow.

The US will have to play our cards right with China otherwise it will be lose lose for everyone if either or both sides screws up.
 

Jeff Head

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IMHO the US ambassador to China is one of the most important jobs in the U.S. Department of State and will becoming increasingly more so going forward as China becomes more economically viable and their dominance in the Pacific and the world continues to grow.

The US will have to play our cards right with China otherwise it will be lose lose for everyone if either or both sides screws up.
I agree 100%!

From 2011 until now we have had Gary Locke. He is pretty partisan and loyal to party politics which I beloieve is not the best of qualifications for such a post. But he is not nearly as bad IMHO, as Baucus. Locke has done a passable job. He was the US Secretary of Commerce under Obama from 2009-2011, and before that, the Governor of the State of Washington.

From 2009-2011, we had one of the best Chinese Ambassadors in 20 years. That was Jon Hunstman Jr. He served under four US Presidents and has been about as even-keeled, and looking for the true best interests of the two nations over party politics as you could find. He started as a staffer under Reagan. Then, under George H.W. Bush he was made the Deputy Secretary of Commerce and then appointed as Ambassador to Singapore. He was the youngest US Ambassador confirmed in over 100 years, and it was a unanimous confirmation. He was the CEO of his family's business the Huntsman Coproration which he successfully guided. In 2001 under George W. Bush he was made a Deputy US Trade representative and guided the accession of China into the World Trade Organization. He was governor of Utah from 2005-2009, and then made Ambsassador to China under Obama in 2009. He speaks fluent Mandrin, and was again, unanimously confirmed. He did an excellent job. IMHO, this was the single best and most effective nomination Obama has made in his 6 years as President. Too bad Hunstman is not still the man.

He resigned his position as governor of Utah at the time to become the Ambassador to China. He then resigned his position as Ambassador to China to run for President in 2012 in the GOP primary, which he lost.

Anyhow, sending an individual like Baucus, who is now well into his 70s and has been a career senator, very beholden to his "party," for 35+ years, IMHO, is just not a good move when it comes to having someone there who can work well with the Chinese and be capable and willing to push back against any bad US policies that may adversly impact the relaitonship...but that is just my opinion.
 
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Air Force Brat

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I agree 100%!

From 2011 until now we have had Gary Locke. He is pretty partisan and loyal to party politics which I beloieve is not the best of qualifications for usch a post. But he is not nearly as bad IMHO, as Baucus. Locke has done a passable job. He was the US Secretary of Commerce under Obama from 2009-2011, and before that, the Governor of the State of Washington.

From 2009-2011, we had one of the best Chinese Ambassadors in 20 years. That was Jon Hunstman Jr. He served under four US Presidents and has been about as even-keeled, and looking for the true best interests of the two nations over party politics as you could find. He started as a staffer under Reagan. Then, under George H.W. Bush he was made the Deputy Secretary of Commerce and then appointed as Ambassador to Singapore. He was the youngest US Ambassador confirmed in over 100 years, and i was a unanimous confirmation. He was the CEO of his family's business the Huntsman Coproration which he successfully guided. In 2001 under George W. Bush he was made a Deputy US Trade representative and guided the accession of China into the World Trade Organization. He was governor of Utah from 2005-2009, and then made Ambsassador to China under Obama in 2009. He speaks fluent Mandrin, and was again, unanimously confirmed. He did an exdcellent job. IMHO, this was the single best and most effective nomination Obama has made in his 6 years as President. Too bad Hunstman is not still the man.

He resigned his position as governor of Utah at the time to become the Ambassador to China. He then resigned his position as Ambassador to China to run for President in 2012 in the GOP primary, which he lost.

Anyhow, sending an individual like Baucus, who is now well into his 70s and has been a career senator, very beholden to his "party," for 35+ years, IMHO, is just not a good move when it comes to having someone there who can work well with the Chinese and be capable and willing to push back against any bad US policies that may adversly impact the relaitonship...but that is just my opinion.

I think we can all agree on the primacy of this very important diplomatic post between our two nations, it will requires someone with integrity that both sides can respect, someone articulate and and culturally astute. Don't forget I am a native of Central Obamastan, having lived here since my Jr. year in high school, Illinois politics is typified by the city of "Chicago", I watched this drama unfold up close and personal, it is even more frightening than can be imagined, think Zombie Apocolypse, I would guess that 10% of the voters in Cook Co. are DEAD, come to think of it, maybe we should appoint Denis Rodman!
 

MwRYum

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IMHO the US ambassador to China is one of the most important jobs in the U.S. Department of State and will becoming increasingly more so going forward as China becomes more economically viable and their dominance in the Pacific and the world continues to grow.

The US will have to play our cards right with China otherwise it will be lose lose for everyone if either or both sides screws up.

We all know what ambassador post meant to US politics, either as a step-up (look who's recently appointed as ambassador to Japan) or reward for loyalty or something...in the end, it'd gives you an entry in your CV that said to the tone "I do know international politics and diplomacy".

In any case, let's see how much more headbutting US and China will be having once this new ambassador report for duty.
 

shen

Senior Member
We all know what ambassador post meant to US politics, either as a step-up (look who's recently appointed as ambassador to Japan) or reward for loyalty or something...in the end, it'd gives you an entry in your CV that said to the tone "I do know international politics and diplomacy".

In any case, let's see how much more headbutting US and China will be having once this new ambassador report for duty.

it seems Baucus never saw a trade deal he didn't like. His close relationship with big businesses also smells like corruption to me. He get along just fine with the Chinese officials.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
Could it be that she is a spy for the Indian government? That could explain why the NYPD did such a quick arrest and search on her?

Nope, I think that's all red herring stuff.Kwaigonegin,s post at 1736 tells us well enough what sort of person she is.
 

shen

Senior Member
Nope, I think that's all red herring stuff.Kwaigonegin,s post at 1736 tells us well enough what sort of person she is.

Her personal character is irrelevant. Her conducts are hardly unique or even rare. Most American vegetables are probably harvest by illegal immigrants paid less than minimal wage. What is important is that she is an diplomat representing a sovereign country. To single her out for this dubious crime and to subject her to strip searches is an insult to the country she represents, India.
It is a reasonable assumption that for the US to insult a friendly country such as India, there must be more than meets the eye.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
There are plenty of instance where diplomats abuse workers in their embassies and consulates in the US. They could've just expelled her without having to go through this publicity. I think there is something going on that's not publicly known.
 
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