Where do the Members of SDF stand on the issue of the War in the Ukraine?

ansy1968 said:

@SampanViking Sir I vote for option C, a Fairer World Order.

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Well if you ever find one, please let me know and I will be only too happy to join you there. I think however it may have to be something people have to fight for rather than have it handed on a plate.

Sadly and soberingly, we must all face up to the reality of today, where the entitlement and virtue signalling obsession in the west means that there is no place for such nuance or objectivity as Option C any more.

If you don’t embrace the New Cultural Revolution and give unequivocal, full throated support to whatever the latest correct thinking is, well you are literally worse than Hitler! In which case you don’t deserve any human rights and blatant racism against you is what you deserve. Just look at all the blatantly racist virtue signalling actions western organisations have been falling over themselves in their hast to outdo each other in targeting ordinary Russians. The latest being a ban on Russian tennis players by Wimbledon.

The other, far more consequential and chilling aspect of this New Cultural Revolution is how the western media has collectively gone all in on fake news and deliberate disinformation in the most brazen way to date.

Western official news organisations parrot Ukrainian partly line talking points with the kind of total commitment and utter lack of shame that would cause North Korean news anchors mental breakdowns as they struggle to decide whether they should be laughing or taking notes.

Social media is just a frenzy of revolting mutual amplification of the worst war porn blood thirsty glorification of death and indignities being heaped upon brave servicemen corpses and their grieving families hat it frankly challenges any claims of those participating to be from civilised societies. Any dissenting voices are ostracised, or silenced by the western social media companies themselves if they gain enough of a voice and following.

While truth has always been the first casualty of war, rarely have it been murdered so brutally and with such blatant and wonton abandon.

Even this humble forum, normally a bastion of neutrality and rationality, have not been spared. The Ukraine War thread, probably one of the best sources on the internet in terms of its neutral and fair coverage of the war, with viewpoints from both sides presented and critically challenged and analysed, have been forced to be closed. I am sure many waging the information war breathed deep sighs of relief when that happened.

I feel apathy towards Ukraine and dislike towards Putin. When it comes to my doorstep wake me up.

SampanViking said:

Well to those asking for Option C, I will just remind you that we have been told "Either you are with us or against us" and "If you do not uphold our sanctions against Russia, we will sanction you" I really don't see what any other option there is, other than standing in the middle and getting shot at by everyone!

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Technically we can still do that here can’t we? After a week, the poll gets closed and anyone who voted for option C gets banned until all Western sanctions are lifted off Russia or the West installs a Russian Puppet. Our version of "Either you are with us or against us" but I imagine the other mods will be most displeased with this action lol.

KYli said:

Tell them to go pound sand. I would say majority of the developing countries just don't give a fXXX. If the US and the EU really tried to force people to choose side, I expect the world would be divided in the two again and The Non-Aligned Movement would be activated again and form another block.

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@KYli Bro you can see the divide, the Global South are all for Russia, China is a cure for Stockholm Syndrome the Collective West had left behind. Cold War 2 you will see the Collective West isolate themselves instead of fencing in the Russian and the Chinese and the latter hadn't retaliate yet as the Collective West exhaust all means throwing everything even their kitchen sink...lol

I feel lucky to live in a small country where the current war in Ukraine and the choosing sides saga have nothing to do with us. So my choice is option C -- Don't Care! I would not support Putin to wage the war nor do I like the way the west pushes Putin into waging the war.

I feel that the world now is separated into the form of modern Three-Kingdoms; they are: The West, Russia and China.

SampanViking said:

Well if you ever find one, please let me know and I will be only too happy to join you there. I think however it may have to be something people have to fight for rather than have it handed on a plate.

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@SampanViking Sir I think we should rephrase it to 1) maintain and support the status quo or 2) create a new Fairer World system, cause the Ukraine War is the first of many Hybrid War the Collected West will create to destabilized the world to maintain their dominance.

I understand the concerns of Finland, Sweden, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania and Bulgaria. That is why I wish for a sovereign Ukraine in the borders before the annexation of Crimea.

Intrepid said:

I understand the concerns of Finland, Sweden, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania and Bulgaria. That is why I wish for a sovereign Ukraine in the borders before the annexation of Crimea.

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A sovereign Ukraine isn’t going to be likely given the current situation and ultimately pushing Russia further into a corner with those nations and an increasingly insane USA is probably going to push us all into a nuclear scenario. And then no matter what concerns they may have, it will come to nothing if those nations end up being a radioactive crater along with the USA given that Russia has obviously factored the USA into the mix. I fear your wishes may go unanswered, Crimea and the dombass and other republics are now Russian territory and nothing is going to ever change that and at the end of the day, the remaining parts of Ukraine that remains Ukrainian is going to end up an unliveable hell hole with the bordering nations becoming areas where refugees are going to run wild. Had the west tried to negotiate with Russia to begin with, this situation wouldn’t have gotten so bad to begin with. I wonder if Elenski can live with himself when his grovelling to the west has accomplished nothing but ruining every European economy for the USA. Any self respecting corporation that is harmed by elenski should be demanding adequate compensation from this man given that this man has got foreign property that he can run away to at any give time

emblem21 said:

A sovereign Ukraine isn’t going to be likely given the current situation and ultimately pushing Russia further into a corner with those nations and an increasingly insane USA is probably going to push us all into a nuclear scenario.

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No question, since the Trump administration at the latest it should be clear to everyone that all have to become independent of the USA.