Where do the Members of SDF stand on the issue of the War in the Ukraine?

Where do you stand on the War in the Ukraine

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Quan8410

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The likes of Malaysia and South Korea is disrepecting China but not Russia. Because the Chinese is too soft, period. America and Russia are not liked by anymean but people respect them coz they causing actual damage. You can see Russia despite all domestic problems are still feared around the world. America also. The Chinese should look at this war and learn how to gain respect. Respect in international stage is just fear. The Japanese fear the American so much that turned to voluntary lapdogs.
 
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gelgoog

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South Korea better treat Russia properly. The Russians have had extensive cooperation with them with regards to weapons development to a degree they do not have with a lot of countries with the exception of India, China, Belarus. Their air defense system, KM-SAM, was developed with Russian help. As quite likely was the Hyunmoo-II missile. They also cooperated in the initial Naro launch vehicle responsible for South Korea's first satellite launch.
 
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Biscuits

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Quan8410 said:
The likes of Malaysia and South Korea is disrepecting China but not Russia. Because the Chinese is too soft, period. America and Russia are not liked by anymean but people respect them coz they causing actual damage. You can see Russia despite all domestic problems are still feared around the world. America also. The Chinese should look at this war and learn how to gain respect. Respect in international stage is just fear. The Japanese fear the American so much that turned to voluntary lapdogs.
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It's not really comparable at all, the scales, expectations and stakes are completely different.

You're basically comparing who is more openly feared? An infamous mafia leader, or an entrepreneur that owns most of a country's MIC and consumer industry?

China at any point of the time is expected to be way more stable than Russia. They have a task to shape and hold the whole international order, which requires some level of impartiality as well as hearing out "lesser" countries instead of using brute force. Russia has no such responsibilities, theyre a bloc component and not a bloc leader.

The size of economy, ability to cast influence and so on shows the vast level of difference between China and Russia. People trust Chinese brands and queue in line to get Chinese tech everywhere, but the same can't happen for Russia. However, the same also doesn't need to happen for Russia in order for Moscow to have a good ending.

Regarding Japan and US relationship, Japan is literally occupied as is most of the EU. There is nothing voluntary. When US faces setback and can't hold onto them, you will see their true faces, like how you saw the faces of the Soviet SSRs once the union fell. Military occupation doesn't beget true loyalty.
 
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luminary

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According to this
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, annexing the entirety of Ukraine would qualify Russia back to "great power" status, simply by merit of its strategic resource monopoly.

In the hypothetical situation that Russia wins, this occurs and there is no continued fighting or WW3, Russia gains:
  • Control over the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea
  • As mentioned previously, Ukraine's industrial capabilities (provided they are not sabotaged)
  • Integration of a few million ethnic Russians to boost those flagging demographics
  • $12.4 trillion worth of energy deposits, metals and minerals
    • Ukraine possesses 117 of the 120 most widely used minerals and metals
    • World’s largest reserves of titanium and iron ore, fields of untapped lithium and massive deposits of coal
  • Rich agricultural area which is the “breadbasket of Europe”
The result is that the West becomes doubly screwed by both Russia and China in the rare earths supply chain sector. Demoralized but still quite deluded, they might even give up on clean energy and EVs altogether. Russia gains further influence over the Global South, particularly in Africa and other top wheat buyers like Egypt, Indonesia, Turkiye, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Russia stays in a de facto state of war with NATO for the next 5-10 years, with lingering hostility lasting another 20, and dominates the Artic region for this century. Eventually, revitalized Russia may compete with China for global influence after the threat of NATO is neutralized.

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