When US sells the Apache to Taiwan, will this pose a serious threat to China?

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zyun8288

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Apart from jokes, ROC army would be better off concentrating on land battles, and leave the sea battle to ROCAF and navy.

In other words, Heli does have its role in ROC Army, but you really don't need to use AH64's anti ship capablility to get extra bucks from the military budget.
 
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美國友邦

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FuManChu said:
As has been said here, there would be zero threat to China because they would be used defensively. It would help Taiwan if invaded by China, but that's a different kettle of fish.
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In your logic, then China's missles pointed at Taiwan will not be zero threat, since China has not planned to attack Taiwan yet. Just admit it, weapons are made for war, it would at least pose some sort of threat in a possible conflict between China and Taiwan.
 
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Skorzeny

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美國友邦 said:
In your logic, then China's missles pointed at Taiwan will not be zero threat, since China has not planned to attack Taiwan yet. Just admit it, weapons are made for war, it would at least pose some sort of threat in a possible conflict between China and Taiwan.
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The norm is to see if the weapon is a threat to chinese national security. The Apache cannot attack chinese forces on chinese land.Therefor they are no threat. Saying that they are a threat to China because if China invades Taiwan....... thats just illogical.
No country would make that argument
 
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美國友邦 said:
In your logic, then China's missles pointed at Taiwan will not be zero threat, since China has not planned to attack Taiwan yet. Just admit it, weapons are made for war, it would at least pose some sort of threat in a possible conflict between China and Taiwan.
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Your comparison isn't appropriate. Chinese missiles are a threat to Taiwan because they can reach the island - that's the whole reason they were deployed, to threaten the island.

On the other hand the Apaches couldn't be used to attack China in such a way.
 
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Skywatcher

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One could theoretically base the Apaches on Kinmen or Matsu, but frankly that's just throwing away good men and helicopters.
 
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mauler88

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I think everyone forget that china has it's own dedicated attack helicopters now.

The Z-10 sure beats the the crapy Z-9 Frechie stuff they were using before. it's not hard to imagine china put a few of thse
Z-10s on their warships and have the Z-10 support and Amphibus landing or even take on ROC attack helicopters that's trying to intercept landing crafts.
 
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bd popeye

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mauler88 said:
I think everyone forget that china has it's own dedicated attack helicopters now.

The Z-10 sure beats the the crapy Z-9 Frechie stuff they were using before. it's not hard to imagine china put a few of thse
Z-10s on their warships and have the Z-10 support and Amphibus landing or even take on ROC attack helicopters that's trying to intercept landing crafts.
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Could you tell me just how many Z-10s have been deployed on PLAN ships? You need to back up your statements..

MODS note>> It seems everytime the subject turns to Taiwan the inavsion theroist appear. I will allow this discussion to continue as long as it remains civil and on the subject of helos.

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Skywatcher

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In the event that the PLA does make an amphibious landing, wouldn't they most likely have gotten some sort of air cover first (even J-7s would make a hit and run Apache raid a rather futile effort)?

I don't think the PLA is going to attempt any sort of landing if they don't have air superiority first, or they'll have bigger things besides AH-64Ds to worry about.
 
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Pointblank

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Skywatcher said:
In the event that the PLA does make an amphibious landing, wouldn't they most likely have gotten some sort of air cover first (even J-7s would make a hit and run Apache raid a rather futile effort)?

I don't think the PLA is going to attempt any sort of landing if they don't have air superiority first, or they'll have bigger things besides AH-64Ds to worry about.
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You need total and complete air superiority to eliminate that threat. And with the Taiwanese and the Americans contesting that, Apaches can slip through and wreak some havoc.
 
crobato

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Skywatcher said:
In the event that the PLA does make an amphibious landing, wouldn't they most likely have gotten some sort of air cover first (even J-7s would make a hit and run Apache raid a rather futile effort)?

I don't think the PLA is going to attempt any sort of landing if they don't have air superiority first, or they'll have bigger things besides AH-64Ds to worry about.
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The PLA's own helicopters, the Z-9s, are often equipped with TY-90s, which are missiles that enable you to go helo on helo combat. Ships that are covering the landings will definitely have some AAW capability. Let's not forget the main bane of assault helicopters now are MANPADS.
 
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