When US sells the Apache to Taiwan, will this pose a serious threat to China?
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I think you mean SuperCobras - Taiwan doesn't have any Apaches (yet).
I can't remember exactly what happened, but if Hellfire missiles were used they were probably the earlier models, which are pretty much just for anti-armour. The later ones, some of which Taiwan has bought, are designed to sink landing craft.
Pointblank
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Destroying landing craft, amphibious vehicles, and small warships will be the job of attack helicopters. The AGM-114 Hellfire can be fitted with either the standard HEAT round, the Metal Augmented Charge, or a Blast Fragmentation warhead.
AssassinsMace
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I found the article about the cap-sized ship off Taiwan. Now I remember why it stood out in my mind. The Taiwanese fired Hellfires and dropped bombs from F-16s and still couldn't sink the freighter.
Botched bombing efforts embarrass defense officials
STAFF WRITER
Saturday, Oct 29, 2005, Page 2
Three weeks after a South Korean freighter carrying more than 2,000 tonnes of benzene capsized off Taoyuan County, the government on Thursday tried to demolish the ship with bombs and missiles.
Although two separate bombing runs failed to sink the ship, the Ministry of National Defense declared the mission a success.
Admitting that it was "embarassing" that the initial effort by two F-16s to bomb and sink the ship failed, Minister of National Defense Lee Jye (李傑) yesterday said the ministry would engage in introspection about the mission.
Lee made the remarks on the legislative floor yesterday while fielding a question from the lawmakers about the ministry's mission to demolish the ship at the request of the Environmental Protection Administration (EPA).
The ship capsized off Taoyuan County on Oct. 10, after colliding with a Taiwanese-owned, Liberian-registered container ship from Hong Kong.
The EPA confirmed that 1ppm (parts per million) of benzene had been detected in the air within 2 nautical miles (3.7km) of the site. The testing results of water samples collected from the surrounding waters also showed a leakage of benzene.
The EPA was afraid that the leak could pollute the area, and affect the safety of other ships. So it decided to blast the ship with the help of the military, after consulting experts at home and abroad.
According to the EPA, as benzene is a highly volatile substance, it would be likely to disperse rapidly into the atmosphere after the ship had been blasted, and that there was little risk of the fumes reaching land.
The ministry sent two F-16 fighter jets equipped with two 2,000 pound laser-guided bombs from an air base in central Taiwan to carry out the mission.
The fighters failed to complete the mission, with only "some" of the bombs hitting the target due to "relatively thick clouds."
Later, two AH-1W Super Cobra helicopters were dispatched. They fired a total of eight Hellfire missiles at the ship on Thursday afternoon. Although they also failed to completely sink the ship, the ministry said the second mission was much more effective than the first one.
Botched bombing efforts embarrass defense officials
STAFF WRITER
Saturday, Oct 29, 2005, Page 2
Three weeks after a South Korean freighter carrying more than 2,000 tonnes of benzene capsized off Taoyuan County, the government on Thursday tried to demolish the ship with bombs and missiles.
Although two separate bombing runs failed to sink the ship, the Ministry of National Defense declared the mission a success.
Admitting that it was "embarassing" that the initial effort by two F-16s to bomb and sink the ship failed, Minister of National Defense Lee Jye (李傑) yesterday said the ministry would engage in introspection about the mission.
Lee made the remarks on the legislative floor yesterday while fielding a question from the lawmakers about the ministry's mission to demolish the ship at the request of the Environmental Protection Administration (EPA).
The ship capsized off Taoyuan County on Oct. 10, after colliding with a Taiwanese-owned, Liberian-registered container ship from Hong Kong.
The EPA confirmed that 1ppm (parts per million) of benzene had been detected in the air within 2 nautical miles (3.7km) of the site. The testing results of water samples collected from the surrounding waters also showed a leakage of benzene.
The EPA was afraid that the leak could pollute the area, and affect the safety of other ships. So it decided to blast the ship with the help of the military, after consulting experts at home and abroad.
According to the EPA, as benzene is a highly volatile substance, it would be likely to disperse rapidly into the atmosphere after the ship had been blasted, and that there was little risk of the fumes reaching land.
The ministry sent two F-16 fighter jets equipped with two 2,000 pound laser-guided bombs from an air base in central Taiwan to carry out the mission.
The fighters failed to complete the mission, with only "some" of the bombs hitting the target due to "relatively thick clouds."
Later, two AH-1W Super Cobra helicopters were dispatched. They fired a total of eight Hellfire missiles at the ship on Thursday afternoon. Although they also failed to completely sink the ship, the ministry said the second mission was much more effective than the first one.
Skywatcher
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Isn't it sort of a risky proposition to use attack helicopters to attack an amphibious force which would most likely to possess medium range SAM systems?
Pointblank
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No, because attack helicopters can use the terrain to fly under the radar.
from my experience the cobra boys"marines" would use X2 hellfire and a rocket pod. would lock their gun and kind of strafe.
The Apache I would never see. They would set back 4K behind me and hit targets 4K in front of me. made me very nervous I would get hellfire in the ass. 1 or 2 big boys did take a hit.
I think any PRC ship that was landing would be in serious hurt if they don't have air supremacy. even setting at tree top level cutting some grass the Apache may not be seen on air to air radar. Apache would just set back 6k from the beach and pop off 16 wave/millimeter thermobaric hellfire....landing ship DOA
Post scrip" ROC Kiowa warrior use hellfire both wavemili and lazer guided. Kiowa is kind of the over look Helo but is one nasty SOB when it wants to be...trust me.....
war bad for Asia...stock price rising good...
The Apache I would never see. They would set back 4K behind me and hit targets 4K in front of me. made me very nervous I would get hellfire in the ass. 1 or 2 big boys did take a hit.
I think any PRC ship that was landing would be in serious hurt if they don't have air supremacy. even setting at tree top level cutting some grass the Apache may not be seen on air to air radar. Apache would just set back 6k from the beach and pop off 16 wave/millimeter thermobaric hellfire....landing ship DOA
Post scrip" ROC Kiowa warrior use hellfire both wavemili and lazer guided. Kiowa is kind of the over look Helo but is one nasty SOB when it wants to be...trust me.....
war bad for Asia...stock price rising good...
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