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[broadsword]

Inevitable but sad just the same.IMO, essentially a good man who did much for health and education in Cuba.

Amazing that he did not live large like Marcos or Peron and Cuba survived despite all the embargoes.

 

[Equation]

Amazing that he did not live large like Marcos or Peron and Cuba survived despite all the embargoes.

Fidel was born into a rich dad who owns a sugar plantation in Cuba. His family has servants (worked like slaves) in desolate housings to run the plantation. As a kid he would go out and play with the servants children. As he grows up he became aware of the desolate condition and the plight of the poor. After graduating from University of Havana with a law degree he became more and more avid about fighting for equality for the poor due to the current corruption of the Cuban at that time. After a coup by the Cuban military which led to the Batista government taking over Cuba against the constitution, that's when Castro became a revolutionary. And the rest is history. I hope that Cuba and it's people will move on to progressing a better future. It's good that the US and Cuba could finally have a more stable relationship. I look forward to one day to visit the beautiful island nation.

 

[B.I.B.]

Fidel was born into a rich dad who owns a sugar plantation in Cuba. His family has servants (worked like slaves) in desolate housings to run the plantation. As a kid he would go out and play with the servants children. As he grows up he became aware of the desolate condition and the plight of the poor. After graduating from University of Havana with a law degree he became more and more avid about fighting for equality for the poor due to the current corruption of the Cuban at that time. After a coup by the Cuban military which led to the Batista government taking over Cuba against the constitution, that's when Castro became a revolutionary. And the rest is history. I hope that Cuba and it's people will move on to progressing a better future. It's good that the US and Cuba could finally have a more stable relationship. I look forward to one day to visit the beautiful island nation.

You don't want to leave it too late or you will possibly miss its quaintness.

My mate who went to the states with me 13yrs ago went on to visit Cuba.

Some of things he experienced.
while he was there and related to me

1/ Its not illegal to drink and drive, but it was illegal to drink and drive and have an accident.
2/ Its illegal to talk and drive at the same time.
3/ Although tourists may get away for not doing so, but its illegal not to pick up a hitch hiker.
4/They had a fantastic health system and were at the forefront of cancer research
5/ There was 83% home ownership. The only people who did not own homes were professionals such as doctors who were always being transferred here and there.
6/Cubans have a higher life expectancy than Americans.
7/ He though think Cuban cigars were over rated.

 

[broadsword]

Some of the facts about Cuba never got into the mainstream. While Cuban exiles rejoice over his death, even more in Cuba mourn his passing.

 

[PanAsian]

Some of the facts about Cuba never got into the mainstream. While Cuban exiles rejoice over his death, even more in Cuba mourn his passing.

Fidel Castro stood up for Cuba and all Cubans as equals to all others and masters of their own country, resources, and destiny. He is probably the single most successful small country anti-neo-colonialist/anti-imperialist, given there was much US undermining as well as much Soviet support.

 

[Jura The idiot]

Wednesday at 9:02 PM

What the Heck?!

Clinton's lead in the popular vote surpasses 2 million

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now Donald Trump says he won popular vote if 'millions who voted illegally' discounted

Donald Trump has continued his criticism of Hillary Clinton’s

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for election recounts in three states,

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he won the popular vote “if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally”.

The president-elect, who offered no evidence for his claims, earlier called the recount effort a “scam”, while senior adviser Kellyanne Conway called Green party candidate

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and Clinton “a bunch of crybabies and sore losers”.

Marc Elias, general counsel for the Clinton campaign,

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that the campaign would support Stein’s effort in Wisconsin, where a recount will take place. Stein is also pushing for recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan and has raised

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online to fund such efforts.

The decision put the Clinton camp at odds with the Obama White House, which has expressed confidence in election results.

On Saturday, Trump attacked Stein,

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to say: “The Green Party scam to fill up their coffers by asking for impossible recounts is now being joined by the badly defeated [and] demoralized Dems.”

On Sunday morning, the president-elect fired off a volley of

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, starting: “Hillary Clinton conceded the election when she called me just prior to the victory speech and after the results were in. Nothing will change.”

The president-elect then drew attention to a debate remark by Clinton after Trump refused to commit to accepting the election result, quoting her as saying: “That is horrifying. That is not the way our democracy works.

“Been around for 240 years. We’ve had free and fair elections. We’ve accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them, and that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a during a general election.

“I, for one, am appalled that somebody that is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position.”

Trump was due back in New York on Sunday after spending Thanksgiving at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, where one report said he had been asking visitors

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.

In the afternoon, around the time of his scheduled departure for Manhattan,

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: “In addition to winning the electoral college in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”

Trump did not elaborate about what he meant by “people who voted illegally”. During the campaign, he and surrogates complained about voter identity fraud among communities which usually lean Democratic,

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, he added: “It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than the electoral college in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4 states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!”

Trump, who trails Clinton by more than 2m ballots in the popular vote, drew criticism for his remarks.

Alex Padilla, California’s secretary of state, said they were “unbecoming” for a president-elect and seemed to show that Trump was rankled by losing the popular vote.

Stein’s recount effort, backed by a coalition of academics and activists, is based on fears that election machinery may have been hacked, although no evidence has yet been presented.

The White House has distanced itself from the effort. Referring to attempts to influence the election that have been officially blamed on Russia, it

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the election results nonetheless “accurately reflect the will of the American people”.

In a statement emailed to the Guardian on Sunday, Stein said: “The incredible outpouring of support for these recounts – from over 100,000 small donors with an average of $45 each – shows that Americans of all parties want a voting system they can trust.

“In an election tarnished by allegations and irregularities, Americans of all political persuasions deserve to know the truth about what happened in these states.”

Former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders supported the legal right to request a recount but told CNN’s State of the Union: “I don’t think

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, who got 2m more votes than Mr Trump, thinks that it’s going to transform the election.”

Conway countered, telling CNN the decision to back Stein was “pretty incredible”.

“I was asked, like, a thousand times, will

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accept the election results,” she said, “and now you have the Democrats and Jill Stein saying they will not accept the election results? [Clinton] congratulated him and she conceded to him on election night and now we’re going to drag this out? It’s pretty incredible.”

She added: “The president-elect has been incredibly gracious and magnanimous to Hillary Clinton at a time when, for whatever reason, her folks are saying they will join any recount to try to somehow undo the 70-plus electoral votes that he beat her by.”

On NBC’s Meet the Press she went further, saying of Clinton and Stein: “Their president, Barack Obama, is going to be in office eight more weeks .

“They will have to decide if they’re going to interfere with his business and the peaceful transition of power to president-elect Donald Trump or [if] they’re going to be a bunch of cry babies and sore losers about an election they can’t turn around.”

In his post, Elias detailed the Clinton campaign’s thinking: “We certainly understand the heartbreak felt by so many who worked so hard to elect Hillary Clinton and it is a fundamental principle of our democracy to ensure that every vote is properly counted.

“We do so fully aware that the number of votes separating Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the closest of these states ” –

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, where the Republican leads by 10,704 votes with the result expected to be certified on Monday – “well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount.

“But regardless of the potential to change the outcome in any of the states, we feel it is important, on principle, to ensure our campaign is legally represented in any court proceedings and represented on the ground in order to monitor the recount process itself.”

Wisconsin’s recount, including an examination by hand of the nearly 3m ballots tabulated in the state, is expected to begin late next week and to be completed by 13 December.

Clinton beat Trump by more than 2 million votes nationwide, but Trump won in the electoral college by 306-232. In Wisconsin,

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. Stein received 30,980 votes and the Libertarian, Gary Johnson, received 106,442.

LOL "Trump did not elaborate about what he meant by “people who voted illegally”."
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[taxiya]

Fidel was born into a rich dad who owns a sugar plantation in Cuba. His family has servants (worked like slaves) in desolate housings to run the plantation. As a kid he would go out and play with the servants children. As he grows up he became aware of the desolate condition and the plight of the poor. After graduating from University of Havana with a law degree he became more and more avid about fighting for equality for the poor due to the current corruption of the Cuban at that time. After a coup by the Cuban military which led to the Batista government taking over Cuba against the constitution, that's when Castro became a revolutionary. And the rest is history. I hope that Cuba and it's people will move on to progressing a better future. It's good that the US and Cuba could finally have a more stable relationship. I look forward to one day to visit the beautiful island nation.

Very similar to (not all but) many Chinese revolutionary leaders. Few examples:
Mao Zedong (paramount leader), a wealthy village gentry family.
Zhou Enlai (2nd top, Premier), a rich merchant family.
Liu Shaoqi (2nd/3rd top, President), a rich landlord family, similar to Mao.
Lin Biao (4th Marshal, 2nd top), a rich merchant family.

 

[solarz]

Very similar to (not all but) many Chinese revolutionary leaders. Few examples:
Mao Zedong (paramount leader), a wealthy village gentry family.
Zhou Enlai (2nd top, Premier), a rich merchant family.
Liu Shaoqi (2nd/3rd top, President), a rich landlord family, similar to Mao.
Lin Biao (4th Marshal, 2nd top), a rich merchant family.

Not all that surprising when you consider that it usually takes an education to lead men.

 

[PanAsian]

Very similar to (not all but) many Chinese revolutionary leaders. Few examples:
Mao Zedong (paramount leader), a wealthy village gentry family.
Zhou Enlai (2nd top, Premier), a rich merchant family.
Liu Shaoqi (2nd/3rd top, President), a rich landlord family, similar to Mao.
Lin Biao (4th Marshal, 2nd top), a rich merchant family.

All the more admirable as these are all people who chose to stand up for those who were less fortunate and systemically mistreated when they could have much more comfortably and easily went along with the then status quo.

 

[PanAsian]

This behavior by Wells Fargo, and whatever judgment might give their legal position validity, is absolutely insane.

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MONEY | Tue Nov 29, 2016 | 4:08am EST
Warren slams Wells Fargo over arbitration position

By Suzanne Barlyn | NEW YORK
Massachusetts Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren on Monday criticized Wells Fargo & Co's (WFC.N) decision to require customers affected by its unauthorized accounts scandal to go through arbitration rather than allowing them to sue.

The San Francisco-based bank last week asked a U.S. court to uphold contract clauses that mandate arbitration, something financial firms often use to protect against litigation. Wells Fargo's situation is unusual, though, because it opened accounts without customers' permission, calling into question whether the contracts and their clauses are legitimate.

In a Facebook post on Monday, Warren, a frequent critic of the banking industry, said Wells Fargo's promise to treat customers better in light of the scandal is "meaningless" as long as it is pursuing arbitration.

"After dozens of Wells Fargo customers sued the bank to recover fees they were charged from these fake accounts, Wells Fargo tried to boot the claims from court and into the closed-door, industry-friendly arbitration process," Warren said.

"Unfortunately, there's a real chance a court will let Wells Fargo shuffle these claims off to die in arbitration."

A Wells Fargo spokesman said the bank has an arbitration clause in its customer account agreements.

"In cases where customers have received a product that they did not want or authorize related to our recently-announced settlements, we are providing free mediation through an impartial third-party," the spokesman said.

Last year, The bank successfully argued in another lawsuit that arbitration agreements customers signed when opening legitimate accounts extended to the unauthorized ones.

Warren also used her Facebook post to advocate for a rule proposed by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that would eliminate mandatory arbitration.

Before being elected to Congress, Warren was a vocal proponent of such an agency being created as part of the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform law. Some Republican lawmakers in newly powerful positions following the 2016 elections have pledged to eliminate it.

(Reporting by Suzanne Barlyn in New York; Writing by Lauren Tara LaCapra; Editing by Alan Crosby and Gopakumar Warrier)