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That's because they are going for the worse case scenario view points to get a reaction from the public as much as possible therefore to demand the government to do something.
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That's because they are going for the worse case scenario view points to get a reaction from the public as much as possible therefore to demand the government to do something.
Actually I think it's because suggesting these kind of worst case scenarios helps the blog attract readership... nuance typically isn't as popular as sensationalism.
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There need not be an absolute truth in it because an event that has not happened cannot fit that description for obvious logical reason. What is sufficient is the probability of truth in his statement. He did use the word "will" and that suggest a potential future event subject to certain contingent properties.
Umm my remark was not about the probability of an event occurring, but rather the trend in always describing/naming Chinese military capabilities as "anti access, area denial".
I'm saying that is too specific of a description/name. It would probably better be called something like "air-naval-missile combat" or something more general, as A2AD is a very US specific doctrine and arguably too limited in terms of intention. China's military advancements could be used in other ways within the region, against other nations that do not need to "access" the region.
There's also a bit more of a social-constructionist bias regarding the term A2AD, which is that the discourse behind "A2AD" suggests that it should be natural for any nation (in this case, the US) to operate anywhere (in this case, close to China's shores) during a time of war, and that any capability to disrupt them from surviving in that location is a threat. But that's just the sociologist in me talking.
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Got it. I think he was writing from his subject matter perspective, and the notion of denial and the term used is something his readers would readily understand. I do agree that the capabilities that you are talking about goes beyond A2AD.
Yes, I think that is likely the case as well.
I think the biggest issue I have with the term "A2AD" constantly being thrown around everywhere, is that it creates this perception that any new Chinese capability is inherently a threat to US capabilities in the region and creates this alarmist response to every new Chinese military development.
I'm all for accurate assessments of potential threats of new developments, but constantly reinforcing that term is creating a needless sense of additional alarm which could otherwise be avoided.
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U.S. Destroyer Made an ‘Innocent Passage’ Near Chinese South China Sea Artificial Island in Recent Mission
"An innocent passage was meant by no means a U.S. recognition of any of China’s territorial claims based on their artificial islands". That is such a terrible spin that there is no credibility left with this administration. The only thing worst off is actually conducting the passage in the first place. No wonder Trump is getting traction when compared to this ex community organiser. I feel sorry for the US.
It is clear that people in this administration do not know the differences, or the implications, in the use of the two terms:
- Innocent Passage, and,
- Freedom of Navigation
Sad...but true.
Nonetheless, I believe that the US Navy professionals who conducted the mission do, and conducted themselves accordingly.
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The article also mentioned the following :
If the plan was to conduct FON, then innocent passage should not be in the menu selection. In particular, Subi was selected because there is no controversy around it as it is an artificial island by all meaning of that word. Innocent passage is oxymoron when placed against Subi unless the USN has now created a new definition of territory seas not covered by UNCLOS. This is an example of how an amateur can complicate even simple stuff.
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