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Schumacher

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My mistake.

I wonder why China does this when it knows the attacks will get traced back. Does it think it can't be traced back to the PLA, that it doesn't care if they're traced back, or even that the PLA did this without trying to obtain consent of the government?

In any case it isn't good for China's standing in the international community, especially when other countries have made similar reports recently.

That's quite a naive view. I'm not surprised at all China or anyone else has done this, I'd have been more surprised if they don't try this a lot. We live in the real world my friend, not Disneyland.
They put out the report now only because Hu is about to meet Bush in Sydney, which some would rather that it not happen.
Same thing when Merkel went to China last week.

As for it affecting China's standing ? give me a break. As I've repeated many times, many in the West in general will always have mixed feelings abt China's rise. The only way for China to improve its 'standing' in their eyes is to stop 'rising'.
Frankly, I hope China will not waste too much time trying to improve its 'standing' among these groups. It's a lost cause.
As for the the non-Western world, minus those who have direct conflict of interests with China, I think their view of China's standing range from favourable to indifference.
 

Gollevainen

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And the image of china in whos eyes is related to US military news in what ways??

....:nono:....
 

bd popeye

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President Bush visits Diego Garcia

US President Bush made a stop in Diego Garcia on his way from Iraq to Austraila..

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By Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Michael W. Pulley, Diego Garcia Public Affairs

DIEGO GARCIA, British Indian Ocean Terrority (NNS) -- After spending most of Labor Day with U.S. troops serving in Iraq, President George W. Bush made a very brief morning visit Sept. 4 to one of the U.S. Navy’s most remote duty stations in the world: the U.S. Navy Support Facility (NSF) on the island of Diego Garcia, in British Indian Ocean Territory.

“This is the third time now the president has visited a command I’ve been a part of and I’ve always noticed how he gets energized shaking hands and saying hello to our service men and women,” said Capt. Greg L. Looney, NSF Diego Garcia’s commanding officer.

The visit was scheduled with less than 12 hours of notice and a lot of work needed to be done in that short amount of time to prepare for the president’s arrival.

“With as little time as we had, I thought we did a pretty good job,” Looney said.

Security protocols needed to be reviewed and implemented and extra measures had to be put in place to accommodate the president’s aircraft, Air Force One.

“Everyone who worked through the night to get things ready did a fantastic job,” Looney added.

In less than 90 minutes, Bush met with more than 100 military members from both the Navy and Air Force and took the time to pose for several group photographs.

“We got to meet the President and shake his hand,” said Air Traffic Controller 2nd Class (AW/SW) Dustin Wolford, one of the air traffic controllers who helped get Air Force One on-island. “It was exciting, a once in a lifetime experience.”

This was Bush’s first visit to Diego Garcia and the first visit from any U.S. president in quite some time.

Along with meeting many of the Sailors and Airmen of the island, the president took time to speak with Capt. Looney and Royal Navy Cmdr. Gary Brooks, the British Representative for the island, about the many missions of Diego Garcia and its strategic importance in the world.

“He was really interested ... and he understands the importance of our mission,” said Looney.

Despite the short amount of time the president was able to spend on the island, military members were nonetheless grateful to their commander-in-chief for taking time out of his busy schedule to spend time with them.

“I appreciate the president and his team stopping here and being gracious enough to come off the aircraft,” Looney said. “The Sailors, Airmen, chiefs and officers all really appreciated it as well.”

Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice was part of the official party and also spent time meeting with the military members of Diego Garcia.

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The US Air Force has launched an investigation after a B-52 bomber flew across the US last week mistakenly loaded with nuclear-armed missiles. It follows reports in the Army Times that five missiles were unaccounted for during the three-hour flight from North Dakota to Louisiana. The air force said the cruise missiles were safe at all times.

Army Times said the missiles were to be decommissioned but were mistakenly mounted on the bomber's wings. The W80-1 warhead has a yield of five to 150 kilotons, the paper said.

The flight took place on 30 August, from the Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to the Barksdale Air Force Base, near Bossier City, in Louisiana. Air force spokesman Lt Col Ed Thomas said although this was an "isolated incident", Air Combat Command had directed a "command-wide stand down to review process at all of our bases".

Col Thomas said a general had been appointed to investigate the incident and would report by 14 September. "At no time was there a threat to public safety. It is important to note that munitions were safe, secure and under military control at all times," Col Thomas said. "The air force takes its mission to safeguard weapons seriously. No effort will be spared to ensure that the matter is thoroughly and completely investigated."

Army Times quoted the colonel as saying the loading crew involved had been temporarily "decertified" pending retraining and the investigation. A military official told AFP news agency that President George W Bush had been informed of the mix-up. "There are procedures in place and they kicked in and worked," the official said.

The BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington says experts have made it clear that if the plane had crashed there would not have been a nuclear explosion but there could have been a threat from plutonium leakage.
 

Norfolk

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OOPS!! looks like the B52 ran one more Cold war patrol...

You can say that again. I mean, how does something like this happen? Isn't there supposed to be the most rigid security regulations and procedures surrounding anything to do with these weapons? The Bomber Wings are filled with pros, guys who know what they are doing and who are used to working under tight security and procedures, not amateurs, so presumably something just freakish must have occurred for this to happen. Still, despite this the other procedures in place worked, and nothing else serious occurred.
 

bd popeye

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You can say that again. I mean, how does something like this happen? Isn't there supposed to be the most rigid security regulations and procedures surrounding anything to do with these weapons? The Bomber Wings are filled with pros, guys who know what they are doing and who are used to working under tight security and procedures, not amateurs, so presumably something just freakish must have occurred for this to happen. Still, despite this the other procedures in place worked, and nothing else serious occurred.

You said it..As someone who was an Avation Ordanceman for 11 of my 20 years in the USN I find this story hard to swallow.

I don't know how the USAF handles it's nukes but IF we handled nukes(I will neither confirm or deny the presence of nuclear weapons on boad any US Navy ship or shore station) there were always heavily armed US Marines escorting the weapons. IF the USN had Nukes they were/are stored in speacial magazines afloat and ashore.

Could this story be a hoax to shake up the Russians who have rekindled there "Cold War" bomber patrols? Who knows for sure???
 

Violet Oboe

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At first the story reads like ´Broken Arrow´ reloaded but if the DoD takes measures probably leading to at least a dishonorable discharge of the responsible officer (... admittedly news are unclear about this topic right now) second thoughts are justified.
Perhaps USAF got recently order to expand their ´alarm patrols´ in response to the russian move and the limited available personnel was simply overstrained with the additional duties?:coffee:

As for the Commander in Chief's visit to Diego Garcia: Probably Bush jr. just wanted to uplift troop morale already in advance since they will get damned busy on the island this autumn!:D
 
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Neutral Zone

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It wasn't so long ago that the USAF was flying hundreds of nuclear weapons 24 hours a day on Chrome Dome airborne alert missions.

I dread to think what Curtis LeMay's reaction to the fuss being made over this incident would have been! :nono:
 

Undead Yogurt

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Apparently Kitty Hawk has been denied entry into Hong Kong for Thanksgiving. China must be really pissed off about something for this to happen. Though I can't think of anything really serious that has recently happened that would affect Sino-US relations like this. The only thing to come to mind right away is the trade issue related to the tainted goods fiasco, but that doesn't seem quite that weighty. Any ideas?

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