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Atomicfrog

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I don't understand how a platform can have so many documented malfunctions and problems and still be shilled like the second coming of Jesus... But yeah even the last string of bad news won't change people's minds... They will say things like :

'but this happens to all fighter programs'

'But everybody is buying it'

'but mah stealthhhhhhh'

'Just wait for block XX it's a gamechanger' it'll be great in XX years'

...

...Yawn...
I you put all eggs in one project and cutting all opportunities to have another one, you need to carry-on with it even if it's messed up for a long time...

Most of the aircraft industries have merged to form giant corporate monsters (Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman) making the number of options lower than when a lot more competition was active. They have way to much political power right now, enough to milk taxes like never before even in troubled program.
 

SlothmanAllen

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Looks like Northrop is working on an air-breathing anti-ship missile. No specs yet as it seems to be early days, so who knows what will come of it?

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tankphobia

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First shot looked like it grazed but did not mission kill, second shot did take it out. But both did connect with the missile despite any trajectory change from the First interceptor hit.

This should only be the third layer of defense, behind EW and CAP and in front of SEA sparrow and CIWS, modern destroyer formations should require a disporportionate amount of firepower to actually take down.
 

CMP

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First shot looked like it grazed but did not mission kill, second shot did take it out. But both did connect with the missile despite any trajectory change from the First interceptor hit.

This should only be the third layer of defense, behind EW and CAP and in front of SEA sparrow and CIWS, modern destroyer formations should require a disporportionate amount of firepower to actually take down.
With traditional subsonic Tomahawk-like missiles, sure. With modern hypersonic missiles? One shot, one wreck at the bottom of the sea.
 

Michaelsinodef

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but a bird's eye view of the last 20 years. I was shocked to see how backwards China was in 2003 and it's incredible how fast they've caught up since.

It can be quite the shock to look back and see how the PLA was 20 years ago.

In fact, I think it even extends to the whole of China, especially in comparison to current day China.
 

SlothmanAllen

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It can be quite the shock to look back and see how the PLA was 20 years ago.

In fact, I think it even extends to the whole of China, especially in comparison to current day China.

Yeah, the country underwent one of the most rapid modernizations in history!

I think the comparison on a military basis would look more impressive from a Navy standpoint! China built a world leading shipbuilding industry between 2000 and today. So today they can output a large number of diverse warships.

On the other hand, the US military shipbuilding industry basically collapsed between the mid-80s and today. During the 80s they had three yards producing the Perry class frigates and commissioned as much as eight of them in a single year (the third yard went out of business when it didn't get a Burke contract). That was on top of launching about three Tico's per year, about ~four Los Angeles class and ~two Ohio class (with variations depending on year). Even their output in the 90s was considerably better. I want to say they were producing around 4 Burke's per year in the mid 90s.

EDIT: I think they are at like 1.2 Virginia's per year right now, maybe two Burke's (a class they used to be able to build around four or so per year) and one Constellation class frigate (maybe two in future years). So they have a huge hole to attempt to dig out of, and I am not sure even having unlimited money can fix it. People don't really want to go into shipbuilding and I don't think their shipbuilders are in areas young people live or want to go. So not sure how you can attract people to move to those areas and build up and industry. I figured you'd want to have your shipbuilders in major cities to attract talent.
 
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