US F/A-XX and F-X & NGAD - 6th Gen Aircraft News Thread

zyklon

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How can F-47 be cheaper than F-22 while has significantly longer range, more advanced stealth, higher availability, and more sustainable & supportable?

1. Once we adjust for inflation, the flyaway cost of a single F-22 is ~$232 million. That might seem "low" to some folks relative to certain speculative figures that may have been thrown around on how much the NGAD PCA will cost, but that's still a lot of $ to work with per airframe.

Keep in mind that is almost the flyaway cost of three F-35A fighters, which were
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for lots 15, 16 and 17.

According to the
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, inclusive of projected figures for FY08 and FY09.

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Adjusted for inflation, ~$154 million in 2008 is about ~$232 million in 2025 dollars,
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, especially as he was likely estimating the cost of the F-47 on the basis of the F-35A rather than the F-35B or F-35C.

2. Lockheed delivered 187 operational F-22 fighters to the USAF, even though the USAF had originally intended to acquire a total of 750 airframes or so. As you can imagine, certain fixed costs for designing, engineering and manufacturing the F-22 effectively stayed constant even though total procurement was slashed by ~75%.

This inevitably made the F-22 significantly less economical on a per unit basis than what the USAF had projected.

Current claims that the F-47 will be cheaper than the F-22 are likely based on anticipated total production figures that will allow Boeing and by extension the US government to achieve significant cost savings through economies of sale. However, whether that will actually be achievable or not is obviously TBD.
 

zhangjim

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It seems you have no other perspective than coming here and giving the perspective of other nationalists, under a thin veneer of lamenting, as if we should care what rabid magas think showing off a CG makes them powerful...?

And this is a pattern of your posting which is incredibly consistent, whether politics, air force, navy or other news... I just wonder, why??
At least on this topic, combined with the news of the past two days, you don't think I'm praising them, do you?
They acted as if they were in heat with CG images.It seems that the sixth generation fighter have had a significant impact, to the point where they had to take out a picture.
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cdj20

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Doesn't it show a passing resemblance to earlier studies done for the X-36 demonstrator, where the 2409 configuration possess both high maneuverability and type C low observability. This also lends to the fact it was described to be highly maneuverable as well as stealth better than any current jet during the oval office presentation.

The consistency between the two official pictures presented to the commander and chief in the oval office as well as capability to designs that have been explored in the past should point towards the renders credibility. I doubted the canards too before, but now the intent of the F-47 seems clear.
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What are the differences among 2401, 2402, and 2403? Why the agility levels are different?
 

Hyper

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What are the tradeoffs with the x-36 and bird of prey? What are the advantages and disadvantages?
What about stealth. Is it better for VLO or not?
 

votran

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Orca comments on the canards situation. His opinion is that untreated CARET intake is even worse but you don’t see people fussing about it because F-22 uses it.
chinese netizen should go to reddit specially r/noncreditabledefense , r/acecombat (western aircraft fanboy , NAFO hivemind) to troll the shit out of them about F-47 canard

they are the one launch the disinformation wave trashing J-20 because canard first and speard it all over internet
 
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