Probably can serve as air brakes as well as mini vertical slabs should the situation demand it.
US F/A-XX and F-X & NGAD - 6th Gen Aircraft News Thread
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Probably can serve as air brakes as well as mini vertical slabs should the situation demand it.
well i guess that explains the numerous procurement disasters...
If i were to go out now and find a contractor/store/vendor for anything, i would make sure to look at reviews on yelp etc. pretty common sense actually. If DOD doesn't even do that, then I am afraid that it isn't looking good for the program.
There are definitely behind the scenes politics going on over the competition and it's naive to think the DoD doesn't consider past performances in the current programs. Problem is the DoD doesn't have much of a choice, with only 3 primes after all. It's not confirmed but it's speculated that the overruns and mismanagement of the B-2 program effected the decision to contract the ATF to Lockheed over Northrop, and it could be speculated here that the same has repeated but Lockheed with the F-35 and F-47 for Boeing with the NGAD program. It also stands to reason that the USAF doesn't want to continue to consolidate contractional power to just Lockheed and Northrop for advanced fighters. If Lockheed had won the NGAD contract, that's 3 advanced fighter programs in a row won by the same contractor, this would give one prime a tremendous amount of leverage against the military, something which it is already doing with the F-35 program. Northrop has the B-21, Lockheed has the F-35, it's plenty natural to give Boeing the contract for NGAD.
Of course meeting the requirements are naturally the most important element in a flyoff, however if both fighters are up to the task, backhanded political dealings definitely occur behind the scenes considering the influence and power the three primes have within the US government itself.
Of course meeting the requirements are naturally the most important element in a flyoff, however if both fighters are up to the task, backhanded political dealings definitely occur behind the scenes considering the influence and power the three primes have within the US government itself.
Full of marketing statements. I can't believe any of these shit.
How can F-47 be cheaper than F-22 while has significantly longer range, more advanced stealth, higher availability, and more sustainable & supportable?
NGAS cancellation means the smaller design has been reversed to the large design, in order to pursue long-range. But how could the large design achieve cheaper & more capable?
Oh, allies !?
Lockheed makes f-35 in Dallas, so more expensive land, labour cost and frankly low levels of automation. Combine this with orders in the thousands makes the initial investment in each aspect quite expensive. Boeing might probably make them in St Louis. So probably the initial investment might not be that big.
They are 100% building in St. Louis. They are in the process of completing a $1 billion manufacturing facility in St. Louis for the exact purpose of building NGAD. They started construction on it a couple of years ago along with a couple of other facilities and overhauls to pre-existing buildings.
EDIT: The fact that these buildings have been in construction and upgrade for a while should tell you they expected to win this contract with a high degree of certainty.
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By stuffing less into a smaller airframe developed much later, while using better engines, increasing fuel fraction and using less glitchy RAMs.
There were many billions in investments after f-22 design solidified 30 years ago (time from dawn of military aviation to WW2). There were untold trillions in investments in general state of related industries, like electronics.
Back in the 1990s, experimental raptor AESA was a small wonder. Now, DPRK and Iran produce ones from commercial Chinese trms.
Also, design priorities matter. Yf-22 wasn't particularly long ranged when compared to yf-23, and its range was cut even more (in favor of supersonic performance) during the shift to f-22.
As a result - while paper specs can be misleading, technically, say, su-75 matches all the description sans advanced stealth (which is realistically unquantifiable), on just one engine.
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An artist image for F-47, just replaced F-22's tails with canards.
Would it be your dream aircraft design?
Would it be your dream aircraft design?