Ukrainian War Developments

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sequ

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Which crystal ball are you using?

Or do you have some classified intel report we're not aware of?

I asked you to provide hard evidence of your claim, because you made a very strong claim.

You're asking Russia to basically take your word for it, when the entire history since 1991 contradicts it.
Because of the pervasive ideologies in these countries. The Germans secretly hate the Americans and the French have this Gaullist idea of a united European civilization stretching from Lissabon to the Urals.

Now with the UK out of the EU, the pro Europe-Russia faction was dominating until Putin squandered this goodwill away with this stupid war. He has allowed the US to come back and reinstate the cold war trans-Atlantic alliance again within the span of a week. Germany and France can't stop this process. As a matter of fact, Germany is now fully back in the US-EU alliance. It was Von der Leyen today who said that Ukraine is "one of us" and welcome in the EU. That should make you think.

Status quo was the best option. Putin broke that and now he gets to sit on the burn marks.
 

Mohsin77

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Because of the pervasive ideologies in these countries.

That's not what I asked for.

I asked for hard intel for your very strong claim.

That's what countries base their strategy on.

You're literally asking Russia to take your word for it.

Well, it had been taking NATO's word for decades, while watching it expand Eastward.
 

Anlsvrthng

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What you are saying is just evil!!
I have no problem with people standing on the side Ukraine. But you are literally wishing for Ukrainians (soldiers and civilians) to bleed to death just to cause more damage to Russian forces! You simply want them to destroy each other. That is just pure evil!

I want the war to be over, as soon as possible. Preserve you people, survive now and fight another day. Zelensky should NOT sacrifice his country and his people, just to damage Russians more.
Just to make clear, as soon as Ukraine controled by Russia the Ukrainans will get exactly the same sanctions like the Russians.

So, they happines about the Russian sanction is like death wish.
 

sheogorath

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Costly for the Russian at what cost to the Ukrainians?! Do you really think that Ukraine is suffering less casualties than Russians? Dude, the war is in Ukrainian territory! Everything damaged is Ukrainian! It's Ukrainian city mowed to the ground, Ukrainian bridges and roads destroyed, Ukrainian buildings blasted to shambles, Ukrainian soldiers and civilians becoming the casualties and victims of war!

The most damage the Russian can EVER sustain, is just a small portion of the forces they poured in! How many forces they have put in Ukraine? No more than 100,000; at most 150,000! And that's it! Even the bogus overblown Ukrainian claims put Russian Casualty at less than 8000, right now. And look how much damage and casualty Ukrainian people, cities and military is already sustaining!

If the war persists, it will be Ukrainian cities destroyed, Ukrainian civilians becoming the victims of war, Ukrainian civilians and soldier dying for their country en masse.

How do you have the audacity to show your glee?!

But a T-72B3 got blown up somewhere, so that counts as a victory, amirite?.
 

sequ

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That's not what I asked for.

I asked for hard intel for your very strong claim.

That's what countries base their strategy on.

You're literally asking Russia to take your word on it.

Well, it had been taking NATO's word for decades, watching it get closer and closer.
You are too much of a dogmatic thinker. I can't convince you otherwise. Have it your way.
 

ArmchairAnalyst

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Because of the pervasive ideologies in these countries. The Germans secretly hate the Americans and the French have this Gaullist idea of a united European civilization stretching from Lissabon to the Urals.

Now with the UK out of the EU, the pro Europe-Russia faction was dominating until Putin squandered this goodwill away with this stupid war. He has allowed the US to come back and reinstate the cold war trans-Atlantic union again within the span of a week. Germany and France can't stop this process. As a matter of fact, Germany is now fully back in the US-EU alliance. It was Von der Leyen today who said that Ukraine is welcome in the EU. That should make you think.

Status quo was the best option. Putin broke that and now he gets to sit on the burn marks.
Actually it was the Germans who wanted to integrate Russia into Europe / EU and the French who secretly hate the Americans (and anyone/anything else not French) but the rest is solid enough.
 
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