Ukrainian War Developments

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Temstar

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Today is the most critical day. If by the end of today Russia doesn't get 2 out of the below 3 item then they will be in grave danger:
  1. Mariupol entirely taken. The last few defenders don't need to be engaged in close combat, flatten with TOS-1 is now acceptable
  2. Pocket in East Ukraine is closed, we see a photo of two people, one standing in front of a vehicle with V and one with Z hugging each other
  3. Kharkiv defenders separated into several wedges
Putin waving the nuclear stick has bought them some more time, but if some of the above does not occur today and shatter Ukranian morale then Russia will be in serious danger. The die is cast.

The Mariupol one is pretty safe bet, the other two are dicy. If RuAF have any PGM left now is the time to use them, the future of Russia is at stake.
 

panzerfeist1

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LMAO didn't some fake news claim Valery Gerasimov got fired? This is either 4D chess from Putin to make them look like lying fools, or shows the limitations of Russian information management.
the fucking progress is too fucking slow that I am now predicting it will end in more than a month, just start sending missiles to western Ukraine. This kid glove shit will take forever and your just giving Ukrainians more time to get armed with aircrafts and weapons and now they want to send more soldiers from UK and Netherlands over there. **** this shit and start using FOABs I don't give a **** anymore this approach right now is

alot of dead Russians and alot of dead Ukrainians. the better option would be less dead Russians a lot of dead Ukrainians. The majority cant leave their f***ing country without getting gun downed by their militia. I know Russia's high military command is not filled with tards so I am under the impression that the current slow progress has to be effectively working as in saving more Ukrainians but you got to look at things as if its worth the money and lives of the approach they are doing? They can always go the US and NATO style of dealing with countries.
 

james smith esq

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Today is the most critical day. If by the end of today Russia doesn't get 2 out of the below 3 item then they will be in grave danger:
  1. Mariupol entirely taken. The last few defenders don't need to be engaged in close combat, flatten with TOS-1 is now acceptable
  2. Pocket in East Ukraine is closed, we see a photo of two people, one standing in front of a vehicle with V and one with Z hugging each other
  3. Kharkiv defenders separated into several wedges
Putin waving the nuclear stick has bought them some more time, but if some of the above does not occur today and shatter Ukranian morale then Russia will be in serious danger. The die is cast.

The Mariupol one is pretty safe bet, the other two are dicy. If RuAF have any PGM left now is the time to use them, the future of Russia is at stake.
I do believe that the next round of action will drastically change Ukraine’s interpretation of circumstances . Russia, I believe, is now in position to bring this to a decisive head.
 

Jingle Bells

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Timeline of Chinese evacuation:

  • April 2021, mass buildup of Russian troops detected by Western intelligence.
  • December, 2021, US intelligence warns of Surprise Invasion of Ukraine.
  • 12 days before invasion,
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    • US/UK evacuates all diplomatic staff from Ukraine, strongly encourages citizens to evacuate or face no help if conflict occurs.
  • 2 days before invasion,
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    • Russia evacuates all diplomatic staff from Ukraine.
    • China says situation is "worsening", tells citizens to stockpile food/water/neccessities, but No Evacuation order for citizens/diplomats issued as 'peacekeepers' sent to Donetsk/Luhansk. (
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  • <<Feb 24th, large-scale Russian invasion begins>>
    • China advises citizens to 'stay at home' and 'display Chinese Flags' to car to avoid getting attacked by Russian troops. (
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  • 1 days AFTER invasion,
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    : China advises evacuation of citizens, "starts registering" for charter flights.
  • 3 days AFTER invasion,
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    : China tells citizens to NOT display any symbols (
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    ) and seeks alternatives to charter flights, including bus evacuation.
  • 4 days AFTER invasion, Feb 28th, first wave of 400 Chinese citizens evacuated out of almost 6,000 national and 10,000 students.
This is an intelligence failure! Even
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that they had plans to evacuate citizens long long long before China did. If Putin gave big hints to Xi during Olympics,
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with China, and Chinese intelligence agency didn't do jack shit, then they really dropped the ball.
Well, Actually, I think the BIGGEST failure is NATO.
They actually lost one of the best opportunity to confront and defeat Russia, at minimal cost.
By yesterday when RuAF cleared the skies of Ukraine and established air superiority over the region, NATO actually lost their best time to intervene. Right now, any workable effort by NATO (without starting WW3) won't only be "添油战术".

Had NATO rapid reaction forces reached Ukrainian front right after Putin started the operation, they would have a change of confronting the Russian forces by just staring them down without really starting a war. Or, they should have stepped in when Russian forces are still on their way to their initial position, anytime during the first 3 days of battle. That would also result in a stare down with the Russian troops.

In fact, what you are saying, (that the West knew what Russia planned to do and yet didn't act) will simple confirm the fact that strategically, they lost their best chance to humiliate and deter Russia for decades.
 
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