Ukrainian War Developments

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Jj888

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Yes and no.
Russia pushed Europe right into US hands.
So if US is behind it all what does that make Putin?
A tool which he is clearly not.
He simply made an error of judgement out of ego and hurt pride which both the US and China will now happily capitalis

I don't have doubts about the warhead performance but definitely have doubts about the delivery vehicles. Didn't some U.S. Minutemen fail to launch recently? Those things are literal Cold War relicts.
How about the possibility of the antique nukes going boom on launch? Score an own goal.

Not forgetting the conditions of usa infrastructure, the underground silos might be similar.
 

ArmchairAnalyst

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I'm against Putin starting this war as well, but saying Russia did this for land grab is just disingenuous
My reply was in response to counting incoperating Ukraine into Russia as a win.
I'm pretty sure too that any land grab was way down the bucket list.
 

sheogorath

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That is a piss poor take from someone who clearly has a reason to be biased.

The Russian objective with this conflict was to drag the west into a nuclear standoff just like would happen in Soviet times. If they just suddenly went in and took Donbass they'd be condemned, sanctioned more and everyone would move on just like what happened with Crimea. By making this a crisis before they even invaded with intelligence leaks, recognition of the Donbass republics and manipulation of the European gas market they've forced the Anglos to pay attention to the Ukrainian problem and not brush it down the road for the next few years.

Note that all western leaders are largely uncomfortable about addressing this, other than to say "stop talking about nukes". They still want to play the game of pin the sanction tail on the Russian donkey, because that's all they're good at.

Biden is nowhere to be seen, while Putin has been giving daily updates. At some point they are going to have to tell the people they are supposed to represent that they're potentially in a nuclear crisis. I expect he's busy practicing his address to the nation about the unfolding crisis his European partners have got him into. Kennedy set a pretty high bar.

They know the Anglos are losing control of their empire and and have decided to strike now.

warontherocks was also predicting a Georgian victory back in 2008, so take them with a grain of salt.

They are on the same western intel gravy train than bellingcat.
 

foxmulder

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Make no mistake, Russia is the main loser. It's basically a supersized North Korea from now on.
Russia have no need for new land being by far the largest country in the world and absorbing 40 million very unhappy new citizens at gunpoint will only invite extreme instability internally.
And at their borders 600+ million very hostile neighbours rearming themselves with the biggest stick around currently as an ally.


That is the thing, half of Ukraine is not hostile to Russia. And West was already hostile so it is now only official. We will live an see, hopefully if this does not start a ww3.
 

Phead128

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Finland, how dare you join NATO? Now prepared to be invaded by Russia. Finland is a dirty US puppet. Russia must defend itself from US puppet and NATO aggression! blaah blaah blaahh..... Did I miss anything? Oh yea, Finland is committing genocide and is literally Hitler.
 

ArmchairAnalyst

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Finland is part of EU so really no urgent need of NATO membership.
They are just saying that they will decide on their own whether they want to or not. Not Russia.
They have no love at all for Russia and have been preparing for invasion for more than 75 years now so Russia better come much more prepared than currently in Ukraine.
 
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