Ukrainian War Developments

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Maikeru

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I don't get how they are going to give to Ukraine. Ukrainian Air space should already be dominated by Russia now, so there is no way they will allow hostile enemy aircraft to just fly into Ukraine from Poland for example and start shooting. Russia could use that as pretext to say it was polish fighters who tried intervene and directly attack polish air bases.

Unless they want to move those planes by land....Should be easy pickings for Russians bombers if they were compenent enough.

Which really shows how much these people respect Russian Air force and intelligence right now. None at all.
And if they did that then the RuAF would be having short yet meaningful encounters with Messrs F22 and F35 very soon. Once say half a squadron of F22s has established complete and total air dominance over Ukraine, the long jams of Russian traffic should be easy meat for A10/AH64/B52.
 

Overbom

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This is just too optimistic. In a war which involve state existential threat, anything can happen. Since Russia already suffered major damage economically and politically, there is nothing more to lose. Ukraine will be lucky if it will exists a state in a few weeks or if they get half of the country. This will get ugly real fast. And this EU membership move is even fueling more fire. Another reason to wipe off Ukraine. Neighbors inviting your enemies to your frontyard should have no place near your house. Otherwise you will be dead.
Agreed. With the "nuclear" economic war started, Russia has nothing left more to lose on basically annexing the whole Ukraine if it wanted to do do. The only disadvantage would be insurgency but that's up to the Russians to calculate if its on their benefit.

People have still not realised what has happened now. Russia now has the ability to attack, invade, annex, split countries, fund and arm separatists, cut off trade etc

The only one which can moderate Russia now is China. Expect a lot more country leaders to be calling Xi from now on.
 

james smith esq

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Let see what happen because no aircraft can enter Ukrainian territory without getting downed and remains to see from were those aircraft are going to fly because the Russians destroyed all Ukrainians airfields and if they built more is very likely that those will get destroyed too and if they fly from outside Ukraine then this mess escalated to another level.
One of the tactical advantages of, both Su-25, and MiG-29 is their ability to operas from unprepared airstrips. You should know your own weapons systems, Russkie!
 
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sndef888

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What are the other options the Russians might be prepared to consider? Dissolution of NATO? Removal of ballistic missiles from Europe?
It's completely possible Putin just really subscribes to the triple russians theory that Belarusians and Ukrainians are brothers to Russians.

In such a scenario he saw 2 choices:
allow Ukraine to fall to the west and fall out of russian orbit for the next hundred years, or even derussify so much they become a completely foreign people,

or make an all out move to force it back, at the expense of the russian economy for the next 30 years. That will secure his position in russian history books for centuries to come.
 

Atomicfrog

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Agreed. With the "nuclear" economic war started, Russia has nothing left more to lose on basically annexing the whole Ukraine if it wanted to do do. The only disadvantage would be insurgency but that's up to the Russians to calculate if its on their benefit.

People have still not realised what has happened now. Russia now has the ability to attack, invade, annex, split countries, fund and arm separatists, cut off trade etc

The only one which can moderate Russia now is China. Expect a lot more country leaders to be calling Xi from now on.
If they want to get Ukraine they need to finish it soon, more and more country are sending weapons right now, the mess will just grow with time passing. They need to get ground fast.
 
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