Ukrainian War Developments

xypher said:

That's true, you can access this article through the archive -

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. Idk who the fuck Petr Akopov is but he is definitely a nationalist and some of the language is highly questionable - e.g. "final solution of the Ukrainian question" (

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). There are reasonable points as well, e.g. about the center of power moving from Atlantic to Pacific.

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So basically the entire of Ukraine as a Belarus like pro-Moscow state.

Assuming that's true at least we know the Russian starting point for negotiations. The Ukraine's seems to be get all Russian soldiers out and let us in the EU.

I'm sure some middle ground can be found somewhere.

Oryx is going to have a hard time keeping track of all this

sequ said:

Yes, doomed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498403101258231830

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I don't get how they are going to give to Ukraine. Ukrainian Air space should already be dominated by Russia now, so there is no way they will allow hostile enemy aircraft to just fly into Ukraine from Poland for example and start shooting. Russia could use that as pretext to say it was polish fighters who tried intervene and directly attack polish air bases.

Unless they want to move those planes by land....Should be easy pickings for Russians bombers if they were compenent enough.

Which really shows how much these people respect Russian Air force and intelligence right now. None at all.

Abominable said:

I suspect that Zelensky will agree some kind of deal with Russia in return for the EU fast tracking membership.

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This is just too optimistic. In a war which involve state existential threat, anything can happen. Since Russia already suffered major damage economically and politically, there is nothing more to lose. Ukraine will be lucky if it will exists a state in a few weeks or if they get half of the country. This will get ugly real fast. And this EU membership move is even fueling more fire. Another reason to wipe off Ukraine. Neighbors inviting your enemies to your frontyard should have no place near your house. Otherwise you will be dead.

horse said:

Ouyang Nana

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As a 90s kiddie and a EDM fan this thread needs some Russian hardbass. To be in my early 20 again...

SimaQian said:

This is just too optimistic. In a war which involve state existential threat, anything can happen. Since Russia already suffered major damage economically and politically, there is nothing more to lose. Ukraine will be lucky if it will exists a state in a few weeks or if they get half of the country. This will get ugly real fast. And this EU membership move is even fueling more fire. Another reason to wipe off Ukraine. Neighbors inviting your enemies to your frontyard should have no place near your house. Otherwise you will be dead.

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What are the other options the Russians might be prepared to consider? Dissolution of NATO? Removal of ballistic missiles from Europe?

It just doesn't stop

FairAndUnbiased said:

Europe was never really possible since 2017. The propaganda campaign overdrive made it impossible to deal with the EU public. Sweden went from being one of the most pro China to one of the most anti China within 2-3 years so this proves EU ties were never that strong.

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Europe hasn't seen any real economic growth since 2008, housing prices have been sky rocketing skyrocketing for years.
Europeans born in the 90s might be the last generation that might actually be able to buy a house in the cities.

Sardaukar20 said:

Let's not forget that Ukrainian losses are definitely much more than what is being reported.

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Of course is much more, the entire country is on fire. The Russians are not attacking empty buildings. I am amuse how many people here do not understand the seriousness of the situation.

SimaQian said:

This is just too optimistic. In a war which involve state existential threat, anything can happen. Since Russia already suffered major damage economically and politically, there is nothing more to lose. Ukraine will be lucky if it will exists a state in a few weeks or if they get half of the country. This will get ugly real fast. And this EU membership move is even fueling more fire. Another reason to wipe off Ukraine. Neighbors inviting your enemies to your frontyard should have no place near your house. Otherwise you will be dead.

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EU is literally killing Ukraine with love