Ukrainian War Developments

sferrin said:

Oh poor you. Most people would rather be friends with China. The only people preventing it are the Chinese government. Claiming half the world then planning to take it isn't the way to wins friends and influence people. But yeah, big old mean West.

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That sounds fantastic. As you love Chinese people, You should accept their demands of free & open native america.

Do you want to take a vote on it? Or you only do votes on topics you like?
Your people would rather be friend. But who want to be friend with you?

Jingle Bells said:

That's just silly.
Do you really think German can really "re-arm" with just a increase to 2% GDP? What does the Germans have right now? Expensive tanks and IFVs.

Dude, ballistic missiles, hypersonic missiles, bombers, cruisers, Aircraft carriers, SSN's, these are the bare minimum of what "re-armament" really means. A small little increase to 2% does nothing to Germany, nor EU. Increase to 20%, and they will still need half a decade to bring the R&D and production momentum up.

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Exactly. 2% of the GDP is what the UK has, and they're not scaring anyone.

Jingle Bells said:

That's just silly.
Do you really think German can really "re-arm" with just a increase to 2% GDP? What does the Germans have right now? Expensive tanks and IFVs.

Dude, ballistic missiles, hypersonic missiles, bombers, cruisers, Aircraft carriers, SSN's, these are the bare minimum of what "re-armament" really means. A small little increase to 2% does nothing to Germany, nor EU. Increase to 20%, and they will still need half a decade to bring the R&D and production momentum up.

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They’ll probably buy American weapons.

Aegis21 said:

They’ll probably buy American weapons.

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American will NOT sell these type of weapons to Germany:
ballistic missiles, hypersonic missile, medium to long range bombers, aircraft carriers, SSN, etc., among other things.

anzha said:

Every major I've met has seemed to think so!

More seriously though, I left the link in the reply so people would have some idea what I was talking about. Originally, I thought proof of capture would be important. Now, I don't feel it is a good idea.

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Yeah, POW pics aren’t cool! Can be too easily trivialized by asses!

all this talk of war has me itching to try out China's new toys. I want to experience the power of the PLA after all these years of modernization.

Aegis21 said:

What lessons can be learned from this conflict?

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1. If you're going to commit to an operation, commit everything and give it a 200% effort. Spare no use of strategic and tactical munitions, as they'll only prevent pain and frustration down the road.
2. Drones have been severely underutilized.
3. Don't send in your under-equipped and less-experienced units in the first wave.
4. Russia failed to paralyze Ukraine's command & control capabilities.
5. Total air superiority must be achieved within the first few hours/days of combat. We have not seen that.

and, most importantly...

6. Make use of ATGMs and do not underestimate the effect that enemy ATGMs can have on your armor.

grulle said:

all this talk of war has me itching to try out China's new toys. I want to experience the power of the PLA after all these years of modernization.

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Invade Ukraine; everybody’s doing it! Just don’t forget to bring your drones!

But seriously, you sound friggin’ nuts!