Ukrainian War Developments

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bettydice

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Of course, it’s neutral; instability does not benefit China!
There are many people and nations that grab huge benefits out of instable situations. I think China tends to be too obsessed with stability and to be risk-averse. I always see "no need", "don't play with fire" attitude and the inwardly attitude that focuses on internal advancement, here too. I think China has lost many opportunities and potentials by wanting to avoid dangers and conflicts.

Being neutral means it's hard for other countries to consider China as their ally, and that makes them choose the US who provides protection to its allies and takes their side.
 

j17wang

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I kind of doubt the Ukrainians will accept.
Mongolia would be my second suggestion. Please not Turkey.

Ukraine may potentially accept Beijing, as that would also put China's reputation on the line and force good faith from China. Ukraine could ask for some leverage against Russia and in return China could also win some support from non-aligned countries as a place to mediate. Ukraine might even request chinese assistance for reconstruction, for which China would comply, for good optics with belt and road.

China doesnt have an interest in either Ukraine's dismemberment or Russia becoming a complete pariah state.

Otherwise, UAE might work well too as its a reasonable node between Russia, Europe, China, and US.
 

Abominable

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Why use a light beacon? It is not the easiest thing to spot from an aircraft, especially in the day. The Russians would have been using IR strobes for marking targets or LZs. IR strobes are much better designed for getting picked up by thermal vision. Besides, IR strobes and thermal vision are relatively common technology today.

Suspicious fake news from the Ukrainian side. Maybe they are trying to justify the random murders and friendly fires going on among their ranks. Blaming them on 'Russian saboteurs'.
Yes, that looks like a standard low powered LED. Good luck making that out from the sky.

In the UK a green beacon is used by doctors on emergency calls, I don't know about other countries.

They probably shot a civilian thinking they were Russian and then found it in their car.
 
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Overbom

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Good take. They are bottling it a lot, but they still reached Kiev in only 1-2 days
"Given that Russians had a year+ to plan this invasion, they are screwing up pretty badly on a number of fronts. A lot of improvisation (see airborne). Logistics are a mess. Air supremacy hasn’t been achieved

Now having said all that—it’s day 2 and they are at the gates of Kyiv.."
 

solarz

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Good take. They are bottling it a lot, but they still reached Kiev in only 1-2 days
"Given that Russians had a year+ to plan this invasion, they are screwing up pretty badly on a number of fronts. A lot of improvisation (see airborne). Logistics are a mess. Air supremacy hasn’t been achieved

Now having said all that—it’s day 2 and they are at the gates of Kyiv.."

Everyone's a critic.
 

Overbom

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Everyone's a critic.
They made many mistakes but they still reached Kiev. Military operations are inherently unpredictable but Russia didn't seem to have planned this very well.

Anyway, Russia's military is too big and too strong for it to lose against Ukraine, but that means the conflict will cause them more casualties and it will most probably get prolonged
 

FriedButter

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There are many people and nations that grab huge benefits out of instable situations. I think China tends to be too obsessed with stability and to be risk-averse. I always see "no need", "don't play with fire" attitude and the inwardly attitude that focuses on internal advancement, here too. I think China has lost many opportunities and potentials by wanting to avoid dangers and conflicts.

Being neutral means it's hard for other countries to consider China as their ally, and that makes them choose the US who provides protection to its allies and takes their side.
To do any of this you need the ability to project the economic and military including securing a domestic semiconductor industry which is the modern oil of this era. None of this has really become a thing until recently and it’s still in the build up stage. Do you expect China to show off their J10s as protection for allies when the US is flying F35s/F22s in 2015?
 

GodRektsNoobs

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Good take. They are bottling it a lot, but they still reached Kiev in only 1-2 days
"Given that Russians had a year+ to plan this invasion, they are screwing up pretty badly on a number of fronts. A lot of improvisation (see airborne). Logistics are a mess. Air supremacy hasn’t been achieved

Now having said all that—it’s day 2 and they are at the gates of Kyiv.."
I don't think Russia had military option as first choice. Otherwise they would have been far more coordinated. The current situation probably was plan Y or Z.
 
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