Ukrainian War Developments

kkccoo11 said:

I beg to differ. US will put more pressure on China to show its muscle and prove that they are still sole superpower. From the news I read from China, they are way far from being ready.

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Russian troops in Ukraine say otherwise. The US’s catastrophic response or total lack thereof during the whole Ukraine invasion basically marks their fall from the status of a “superpower”. The old world order is officially dead. In the future the US will face more and more push backs from regional powers.

Bellum_Romanum said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t1q3ve

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*Sigh* Not only was this "hero" and his "sacrifice" for nothing, he actually killed innocent civilian(s), his own countrymen at that, and is now being hailed for his "bravery".

anzha said:

Just to be clear though, Zelensky has rejected Minsk. He offered Warsaw instead. That, I think, has been rejected as well by Moscow.

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China should offer to host the talks.

It'd be worth it to see the utter meltdown on reddit.

Playing devils advocate. What are the chances that this become a worse case scenario for china where Russia loses this conflict, Putin is overthrown abs a pro west puppet is installed?

9dashline said:

Ive lived in USA most my life, so that classifies me as an US expert. My expert analysis is that when America realises China overtake is inevitable, it will do the unthinkable and preemptively scorch earth figurately and literally. MAD is preferable to American government than to be in a #2 spot

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@9dashline Thanks bro always happy to learned something new and be corrected, BUT I always believed there are pragmaticism in America cause a defeat or even a draw spell the end of American exceptionalism and its empire, and IF MAD is the option then everybody lose especially the oligarchy elites. Right now the US bluster and bluff had been called by Russia and the American respond are weak, that shows you that they're afraid of using MAD as a strategy. It is against their woke culture of Instant gratification. From my perspective by 2025 when Trump assume the presidency he will do a Nixon on both Russia and China and focus on battling the deep state and the establish elite, He had taste humiliation from them and will seek revenge.

anzha said:

Just to be clear though, Zelensky has rejected Minsk. He offered Warsaw instead. That, I think, has been rejected as well by Moscow.

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Zelenskyy still thinks he gets to play 12 rounds with Putin over a friggin' venue while his people are literally dying every single second.

Unbelievable.

Fedupwithlies said:

China should offer to host the talks.

It'd be worth it to see the utter meltdown on reddit.

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I kind of doubt the Ukrainians will accept.
Mongolia would be my second suggestion. Please not Turkey.

MortyandRick said:

Playing devils advocate. What are the chances that this become a worse case scenario for china where Russia loses this conflict, Putin is overthrown abs a pro west puppet is installed?

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1%. Probably less.

More likely for worst case scenario, is Ukraine survives and becomes a quagmire. Call that 3% though.

It's over 96% IMO the Ukrainians are going to lose despite everything they can do.

ansy1968 said:

@Sardaukar20 bro, I never seen an intellectual European countries act so stupidly, Why hurt yourself when you don't have a beef in the game. Where are the De Gaulles and Helmut Kohl the great pragmatic leaders. I'm disappointed in Merkel , she have the stature to carry Europe to be a third bloc BUT the Atlanticism in her is so strong, that she was blinded by ideology rather than Europe interest.

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German sovereignty is in the hands of USA, there are more USA troops in Germany than in any other country, I believe.