Ukrainian War Developments

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Bellum_Romanum

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Yup. The last true good German chancellor was Gerhard Schroder. He opposed the Iraq war in 2003, and was pushing for more EU openness with Eurasia. Don't know if his intentions were honest, since he is a board member of Gazprom today. But Germany under him was quite progressive at that time.

Washington then played with the German elections and installed their pet, Angela Merkel in 2005. Angela Merkel pulled Germany back to Atlanticism again. She did have a few clashes with Trump, but she is still subservient to America. Nothing like Schroder's defiance to Bush Jr's America.

Olaf Scholz today looks very much like your typical spineless US-ally country leader. He looks even more spineless than Macron. At best, he had abit of Merkel's pragmatism. But we better not keep our hopes up. Germany is pretty much a colony of the US.
The same can be said to Jean Chretien of Canada who vehemently opposed the Iraq War.....The successive majority governments he led in Canada wasn't enough for his party (Liberals) insisted on replacing him with Paul Martin (banker's background) which he did only for him to cause severe damage to the party (via Quebec construction corruption scandal)not to mention the infighting between the Chretien loyalists. The party was severely weakened which led to the Liberals lost in the general election to the Conservatives, followed by Paul Martin's resignation as party leader.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Very irresponsible. Inexperienced civilians could potentially cause more civilian casualties than even the Russians.
That's not what your "fellow Americans" would say. More guns to every God fearing man, woman, and child can and will protect the country from every tyrannical regime who wish to enslave your country. Ukraine has taken that heed to heart and to their certain doom. American nutcase ideology is something else.
 

kkccoo11

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Probably 5 years max.. likely less. But who knows, I'm banking on Iran pulling a Putin and buying China maybe another 2-3 years after this thing is done. By 2030, America will have lost complete interest in containing the PRC. Besides, Lebron has some sneakers to sell.
I beg to differ. US will put more pressure on China to show its muscle and prove that they are still sole superpower. From the news I read from China, they are way far from being ready.
 

Helius

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Once again, I'm asking for those pictures, just one.
It's already morning in Ukraine.

More seriously though. A lot of paratroopers got to the ground and are fighting for control of the town.
Even rumors!? that at least one of the Il-76 didn't blow up and landed with survivors defending the crash.

We'll know a lot more if we knew which direction they came from. The 2nd reported downing is nearly 35km further away from Kyiv.
So that plane could be full when hit or could be returning back to friendly airspace.
As the saying goes: "Pics or it didn't happen".
 
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