Ukrainian War Developments

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tch1972

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lgnxz said:
LOL this can't be real, 2,800 troops, 80 tanks and 516 armoured vehicles in 2 days?
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So far there's a lot of ridiculous claims coming from the ukrainian side about what's going on with thin evidences, some even are already disproven to be untrue, contrary to nearly a complete silence from russia. I can't help but notice the similarity with our case against the indians, how the constant exaggerated lies from them during the border conflict were also filling up the news story, but then actual evidences from our side started to come to cement a more grounded narrative after things have calmed down. Perhaps once the dust is settled we might see the same of a more grounded russia's perspective on how the conflict actually happened.
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The first casualty of war is always the truth
 
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Hey, the only reason your country wasn't glassed by the US was because you had nukes. OBL was holed up in Pakistan for years, and there was a good chunck of republicans who wanted to reduce your population from 200 million to zero.

But guess what, you had nukes. So does Russia. Pakistan was untouched after harbouring OBL for years 2 miles away from your version of west point, and Russia will remain untouched as well. Move on.

(none of this should be construed as confirming OBL colluded with Pakistan government, but like we know, might is right).
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US didn't give a shit it kept droning Pakistan anyway, an actual nuclear power....

People seriously need to stop underestimating the US lack of risk-tolerance due to their moronic arrogance in thinking the rest of the world sees them as they see themselves: as gods destined to do as they please.

Wouldn't be surprised honestly if we were in global thermonuclear war by the end of this decade, led ofc by US missteps in thinking 'oh the Russians (or Chinese) definitely will back down now, no one would ever respond to our continued and endless escalation'.
 
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gelgoog said:
Try doing the math on how many ships you would need to replace Russian piped gas transit to Europe. I heard one guy who estimated you would need 1000 LNG carrier ships. If that is true, good luck. Europe does not have the port facilities either.
No, Europe will either have to suck it up, or turn the coal and nuclear power plants back up. Probably both.

The Qataris are one of the top LNG producers. And this is what they had to say.
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They have long term contracts with Asia and won't accept Europe's shitty short term contracts. They can at best divert like 15% of their LNG. You would need *all* the LNG Qatar, Australia, and the US produced last year. Those are the world's top #3 LNG producers. And #4 is... Russia.
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(Bloomberg Opinion) -- In the 24 hours after Vladimir Putin signed a decree recognizing two breakaway Ukrainian territories, the European Union, the U.K., and the U.S. bought a combined 3.5 million barrels of Russian oil and refined products, worth more than $350 million at current prices. On top of that, the West probably bought another $250 million worth of Russian natural gas, plus tens of mill
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So 1 seawise giant class for oil (if it still existed) + some others for gas per day. Everyday.

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lgnxz said:
LOL this can't be real, 2,800 troops, 80 tanks and 516 armoured vehicles in 2 days?
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So far there's a lot of ridiculous claims coming from the ukrainian side about what's going on with thin evidences, some even are already disproven to be untrue, contrary to nearly a complete silence from russia. I can't help but notice the similarity with our case against the indians, how the constant exaggerated lies from them during the border conflict were also filling up the news story, but then actual evidences from our side started to come to cement a more grounded narrative after things have calmed down. Perhaps once the dust is settled we might see the same of a more grounded russia's perspective on how the conflict actually happened.
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That's why I had mentioned weeks ago that the Western media is probably staffed by Jai Hinds now. The amount of copium in their reporting is suffocating. They have sunken to Indian media levels of copium.

I remembered yesterday a CNN report glorifying Ukraine's 'victory' at Kherson. A victory without any of the victors in sight, celebrating. Plus a few left over Ukrainian vehicle wreckages. No signs of any Russian corpse or vehicle wreckage. A few hours later, there were social media videos showing the carnage of a destroyed Ukrainian convoy at Kherson. CNN tried to spin a terrible Ukrainian defeat as victory. This is Indian media level stuff. Jai Hind!
 
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Sardaukar20 said:
Yup. The last true good German chancellor was Gerhard Schroder. He opposed the Iraq war in 2003, and was pushing for more EU openness with Eurasia. Don't know if his intentions were honest, since he is a board member of Gazprom today. But Germany under him was quite progressive at that time.

Washington then played with the German elections and installed their pet, Angela Merkel in 2005. Angela Merkel pulled Germany back to Atlanticism again. She did have a few clashes with Trump, but she is still subservient to America. Nothing like Schroder's defiance to Bush Jr's America.

Olaf Scholz today looks very much like your typical spineless US-ally country leader. He looks even more spineless than Macron. At best, he had abit of Merkel's pragmatism. But we better not keep our hopes up. Germany is pretty much a colony of the US.
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I personally think Schroder was a pretty good leader. He is now much villified for his dealings with Gazprom. The major mistake he made, I think, was starting the process to close down German nuclear power plants. He did this because he had to make a coalition with the Greens to come into power. And the Greens demanded massive increase in use of renewables and closure of nuclear power plants. Gas was the only way to cover the shortfall without massive air pollution. The only viable supplier was Russia. So this is kind of self-inflicted. Merkel said she would stop the nuclear power plant closures when she came into office, but then caved in to public pressure after Fukushima to capture more votes from the opposition. So they are both responsible.
 
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