Ukrainian War Developments

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Stealthflanker

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The switchblade one is particularly messy. as it's extremely small yet long ranged. hard to spot in radar or even visual.

The only protection might be a barrage jamming in suspected target area but this will also hit friendlies, and if the drone is autonumous jamming become useless.
 

Abominable

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Attack two Russian ships? Must have been our mistake.
Execute Russian POWs on camera? No problem!
Cut Russian POWs balls off? Look how civilised we are! We treat Ukrainian POW so well!
Fire a missile into a railway station filled with Russian civilians? Watch this video that will prove the Ukrainians did it, not us!
Nazis running around Ukrainian held cities executing ethnic Russians and political opponents? See Ukrainians are the bad guys.

At what point does Putin finally realise that this is a war and not a "special military operation"?

I'll say it again. Russia's military credibility is gone after this war. If you can't pull the trigger, you may as well not have a gun. No one will be afraid of them, not even Lithuania. Every day that Ukraine survives is a blow to not only their military, but even their nuclear deterence.
 

Bill Blazo

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Attack two Russian ships? Must have been our mistake.
Execute Russian POWs on camera? No problem!
Cut Russian POWs balls off? Look how civilised we are! We treat Ukrainian POW so well!
Fire a missile into a railway station filled with Russian civilians? Watch this video that will prove the Ukrainians did it, not us!
Nazis running around Ukrainian held cities executing ethnic Russians and political opponents? See Ukrainians are the bad guys.

At what point does Putin finally realise that this is a war and not a "special military operation"?

I'll say it again. Russia's military credibility is gone after this war. If you can't pull the trigger, you may as well not have a gun. No one will be afraid of them, not even Lithuania. Every day that Ukraine survives is a blow to not only their military, but even their nuclear deterence.
The loss of a cruiser is a huge blow for the Russians and an equally huge uplifting triumph for Ukrainian morale. Kudos to the Ukrainians for making good use of their new Western toys.

But the Russians are indeed giving it their all now, or at least they're close to full potential. I don't think they're holding back very much, so I don't see the point of saying that Putin needs to wake up and smell the roses. The Russians know they have a major fight on their hands, and they're behaving accordingly. For once they have a solid strategy that they should have had at the beginning: knocking out the Ukrainians in the Donbas and consolidating control over Eastern Ukraine. Now, they should have been aggressive and hit with overwhelming force from the start, but hindsight is always 20/20.
 

pmc

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He says that:

China won't give Russia technology,China just want to sell finished products to Russia

China will sell stuffs that Russia cannot get from the west at a higher-than-normal price,because Russia has no other choice

I would say these claims are true

He says China want to see Russia weaken,so China could have more bargaining power when dealing with Russia。

I would say China does not want to see Russia collapse,China wants to see Russia fight the west as long as possible。But it is in China's interest that Russia become more dependent on China. In the past Russia was actually very cautious about China's economic influence over Russia and Central Asia region,Russia was not that open to China as some would have otherwise imagined.

China investing to built full cycle automobile plant in Russia. so i am not sure why he think China does not want to invest in Russia. Russia has very limited labor to absorb investments in manufacturing.
It took 10 years to russified Isreali drone with higher takeoff and strike capability. Russia has very extensive presence in Middleast so atleast it will have idea about Chinese drones performance. now they may have came to conclusion incremental improvement offered in Chinese drones are not worth investment in training and integration.

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Abominable

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The loss of a cruiser is a huge blow for the Russians and an equally huge uplifting triumph for Ukrainian morale. Kudos to the Ukrainians for making good use of their new Western toys.

But the Russians are indeed giving it their all now, or at least they're close to full potential. I don't think they're holding back very much, so I don't see the point of saying that Putin needs to wake up and smell the roses. The Russians know they have a major fight on their hands, and they're behaving accordingly. For once they have a solid strategy that they should have had at the beginning: knocking out the Ukrainians in the Donbas and consolidating control over Eastern Ukraine. Now, they should have been aggressive and hit with overwhelming force from the start, but hindsight is always 20/20.
There's been multiple points where I've thought now the Russians are going to start fighting properly. But instead nothing happens.

No use of strategic bombers.
Very little targeting of infrastructure in western Ukraine including roads, rail.
No targeting of supplies entering Ukraine, despite many threats to do so.
No targeting of power/utilities. They haven't even disconnected the nuclear power plant they control.
No attempts to target Ukrainian or western leadership whenever they pop up in Kiev.

All of the above would speed up the end of the war and reduce the number of Russian casulaties. Yet Putin is too chickenshit to do any of them. There is no shortage of Russian leaders who are prepared to do the above (and worse). So if he is incapable, he should step aside.
 
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