Ukrainian War Developments

Russian army units in action in Ukraine.

Ditched Ukrainian T-64BVs.

Krasnopol strike on APC?

Ukrainian military vehicle wreackage.

More footage of Russian BTR-82A in action.

Moskva hit?

Probably another Ukrainian own goal where they blew up their own Slava-class "Ukraina" docked in Nikolayev.

gelgoog said:

Phead128 said:

Russia's war only make sense if you can rapidly gain capitulation at minimal economic costs. In contrast, a 'forever war' + 10-15 years of lost economic growth is too costly for the original demands.

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Russia is currently training their army which will get to fight WW3 if necessary.

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I disagree with this as well. Sounds like copium.

A 'Special military operation' is insufficient for 'train to fight a WW3'.

You need to 'whole-of-society' mobilization, martial law, and wartime economy to 'train to fight a WW3'.

Also, we don't see Su-57s, T-14 Armadas, Tu-22M strategic bombers, and other equipment you expect in a peer-to-peer WW3 conflict. In fact, Russia is mostly using it's older gear like T-72s, none of it's most modernized hardware. So how can you even say they are "training for WW3" without using it's latest modernized equipment?

Actually we have footage of the Su-57 in theater. The Tu-160 was already used in standoff attacks.
As for the T-14 and Tu-22M3 I think it is a question of time.
Of course they will try to avoid using the latest and greatest in conditions where it can be captured by the enemy.

gelgoog said:

Actually we have footage of the Su-57 in theater.

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We saw footage of Su-57's in Syria too, but Syria was is not "training to fight WW3". It was a 'minor intervention'.

gelgoog said:

The Tu-160 was already used in standoff attacks.

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If this was a real training for fighting WW3, Russia would be strategic bombing of cities with dumb bombs right now. Not 'brotherly precision standoff attacks', which sounds more like 'special military operation' limited objective warfare instead.

gelgoog said:

Of course they will try to avoid using the latest and greatest in conditions where it can be captured by the enemy.

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This fits a description of "special military operation", rather than "training for WW3".

No mass mobilization, martial law, war-time economy, no use of advanced equipment at large-scale. Doesn't sound like "Training for WW3".

lucretius said:

Moskva hit?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1514307002809290754

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There is storm indeed in Black Sea.. but Moskva hit ? i feel it's Vasily Bykov 3.0.

And now for documenting this record thanks to the great job of our friend Oryx the Russian Army now has achieved this not so great accomplishment

gelgoog said:

Probably another Ukrainian own goal where they blew up their own Slava-class "Ukraina" docked in Nikolayev.

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hardly a goal of any kind. the ukraina has been sitting incomplete for 30 years, numerous effort to find a buyer elicited no interest.

What will be the ramifications of Zelensky declaring that the German president is a persona non grata in Ukraine?

Steinmeier was just hours away from embarking to Kyviv when he received the message that he is unwelcome.

The move was a humiliation for Steinmeier — a former foreign minister closely associated with Berlin’s previous policy of pursuing close economic and diplomatic ties with Russia — but also for Germany as a whole. As federal president, Steinmeier is the highest-ranking representative of the German state.
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Others were more critical. “While understanding the existential threat to Ukraine posed by the Russian invasion, I expect Ukrainian representatives to adhere to a minimum level of diplomatic manners and not unduly interfere in our country’s domestic politics,” said Rolf Mützenich, the parliamentary group leader of the center-left Social Democrats, the party of both Steinmeier and Scholz.

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