Ukrainian War Developments

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Bill Blazo

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And now for documenting this record thanks to the great job of our friend Oryx the Russian Army now has achieved this not so great accomplishment
Highly unlikely, given the issues numerous people have raised to Oryx about misidentification and manipulation. For example, the Ukrainians have become masters of painting Zs on their armored vehicles and snapping up selfies to "prove" they captured or destroyed Russian stuff. It seems much of the Ukrainian military has been specifically ordered to conduct a propaganda campaign involving smartphones, to show "momentum" and to amplify Russia's perceived losses on social media. Maybe if they focused more on the actual battlefield, they'd still have places like Mariupol and Kherson!

I'd say it's likely Russia has lost about 400 tanks, maybe even around 350. Either way, that's still a lot! I'd also peg Ukraine's tank losses at about 300.
 

tonyget

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This guy is one of those who fled Russia because of current situation

At 29:07 ,he talked about China. He talked about how majority of Russians who support the war view China's role in this event,and his own view as well. Even though he does see China in a friendly way,I would not say his view totally wrong.

 

MortyandRick

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This guy is one of those who fled Russia because of current situation

At 29:07 ,he talked about China. He talked about how majority of Russians who support the war view China's role in this event,and his own view as well. Even though he does see China in a friendly way,I would not say his view totally wrong.

So which of his views are eight? That china steals technology or china wants land grab or china only seeks to take advantage of Russia in this situation. He doesn't seem friendly to china at all.
 

Bill Blazo

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They're not gonna run out of tanks anytime soon..
Exactly. The Russians have over 12,000 tanks. This is the main reason why I stopped paying attention to Oryx a long time ago, because there's no context behind his numbers. They're social media fodder to get more likes from the Western internet mobs. Even if Russia has lost 500 tanks, that's literally 4% of its entire inventory. Assuming Ukraine has lost at least 300, which is highly likely, that's 13% of its inventory. Ukraine's losses by proportion are far worse. Why do you think Zelensky keeps clamoring for more tanks? And even though Ukraine's total inventory was around 2,200 before the war started, it's likely that less than 1,000 of those tanks were actually operational. Assuming 900 were, you're talking about Ukraine having lost at least one-third of its operational inventory! The Russians likely had about 5,000 operational tanks heading into the war, so they've lost at most 10% of their total operational stock.
 

enroger

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This guy is one of those who fled Russia because of current situation

At 29:07 ,he talked about China. He talked about how majority of Russians who support the war view China's role in this event,and his own view as well. Even though he does see China in a friendly way,I would not say his view totally wrong.


The fact that you agree with what he said about China, even label him as seeing China "in a friendly way" given what he said tell me more about you actually

So, in your opinion when will China start invading Russia for that sweet sweet Siberian land?
 
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Maikeru

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Exactly. The Russians have over 12,000 tanks. This is the main reason why I stopped paying attention to Oryx a long time ago, because there's no context behind his numbers. They're social media fodder to get more likes from the Western internet mobs. Even if Russia has lost 500 tanks, that's literally 4% of its entire inventory. Assuming Ukraine has lost at least 300, which is highly likely, that's 13% of its inventory. Ukraine's losses by proportion are far worse. Why do you think Zelensky keeps clamoring for more tanks? And even though Ukraine's total inventory was around 2,200 before the war started, it's likely that less than 1,000 of those tanks were actually operational. Assuming 900 were, you're talking about Ukraine having lost at least one-third of its operational inventory! The Russians likely had about 5,000 operational tanks heading into the war, so they've lost at most 10% of their total operational stock.
How many of that 12000 are rusting hulks stripped of any moveable parts for sale on the black market?
 
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