Ukrainian War Developments
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Apparently Zelensky has ordered the arrest of the Opposition Leader.
With so many Anti-Tank weapons floating around in Ukraine conflict, are tanks even a viable option in this conflict for both side? I think Artillary , MLRS and good old Sniper Rifle along with Drones might be a better option ?
Yeah I agree with that part, I didn't mean that conquering more of Ukraine would fix Russia's issues with low life expectancy or fertility rates. I just meant that it would simply increase the overall Russian population, thus negating all the fancy demographic models that are projecting a steep decline for Russia's population by 2025 and 2030. Those models are now all kaput. And the truth is they've been wrong for a long time. If you count the population of the areas that are currently under de facto Russian political control (Crimea, DPR, LPR, Abkhazia, South Ossetia), then Russia's population is already just above 150 million. If you consider the Union State between Russia and Belarus as one country, as I think you should, then Russia's population swells to 160 million. Now, three years ago there's no way I would've said that Russia and Belarus are effectively one country. Lukashenko was a shifty chameleon who played off Russia and the West against each other. But after the political events of 2020 and the recent invasion, does anyone seriously think that Belarus is anything other than a big Russian province? Did the Russian army behave any differently in Gomel and Minsk versus Belgorod and Valuyki? It was all the same giant playground for them. And on top of that there's at least the political artifice of a unified state, in a way that doesn't exist between America and its puppets, even as US troops can readily stomp around South Korea or Germany. I guess what I'm saying is it's difficult to even know Russia's actual population because it depends on what you consider Russia to be!
(once again, this is my last reply on the subject to avoid derailing the thread, so you are welcome to have the last word)
Tanks and armoured fighting vehicles are still viable, especially for the side that has air domination. But they must make their approaches carefully, and be well protected by infantry and air support.
Hmm. Didn’t the transition from the Spring and Autumn period to Warring States also mark China’s transition from a slave society to a feudal society?
The Spring and Autumn period saw stratagems that might be described as less than honorable, like the sexpionage mission of Xi Shi from the state of Yue to king Fu Chai of Wu and sending of boiled grain to Wu in deceiving them to sow their fields with seeds that could never germinate, leading to a widespread famine in Wu.
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Mariupol is turning out to be an anti-climax. No last stand, the Ukrainians are just mass surrendering in their hundreds. I thought Ukrainians were brave warriors who would rather die than live under Russian rule. Apparently the Nazis aren't surrendering, but I don't know whether to trust the Russians on that. I think they just want to gas or drown them all alive.
So recap, the Ukrainians forced as many civilians as they could to remain in the city, then when the Russians blockaded it most of them retreated to the bunkers of Azovstal. Instead of fighting, they spent most of the time trying to escape the blockage disguised as civilians or aid workers. They also were torturing civilians and begging other countries to save them.
If that's Ukrainian military strategy going forward they don't deserve to exist as a country. These POWs shouldn't be freed either once the war is over. They should be forced to rebuild the city they helped destroy.
So recap, the Ukrainians forced as many civilians as they could to remain in the city, then when the Russians blockaded it most of them retreated to the bunkers of Azovstal. Instead of fighting, they spent most of the time trying to escape the blockage disguised as civilians or aid workers. They also were torturing civilians and begging other countries to save them.
If that's Ukrainian military strategy going forward they don't deserve to exist as a country. These POWs shouldn't be freed either once the war is over. They should be forced to rebuild the city they helped destroy.
This is huge if it's true. Would make it by far the single biggest case of surrender in the entire war. Also confirms that the end is near in Mariupol.
Russia will not be cruel to surrendering Ukrainian soldiers. It will much more likely than not and much more often than not abide by the terms of the Geneva Convention with them.
This war happened because Zelensky was not strong enough to take on the Far Right in Ukraine, which did not want to abide by the terms of the Minsk Agreement and also because Cold Warriors in the United States do not want Ukraine to be a neutral country.
Those who say that the Far Right parties had a poor showing in the last election forget that the reality of political power in Ukraine grows out the barrel of the gun.
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