Ukrainian War Developments

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Abominable said:
I said that they'd already given the Ukrainians an anti ship missile, looks like I was right. I thought it was the older sea skua, but it turns out it was the Brimstone. Only the newest for Nazis.
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Most Russian naval vessels in the operational area have either gone back to port or are loitering near Crimea; with the notable exception of three Russian ships in formation near Odessa for mine clearing operations
 
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Richard Santos said:
actually, most countries that got sanctioned like russia did and also took the military setbacks russia would have quit or had a capitualationist coup already.

Russia hasn’t been in any major war in its entire history where it managed to do well at the beginning.

It usually starts by suffering more casualties in the first phase than its enemy will suffer during the entire war, then slowly claw its way back, in the end russia would win, but suffering several times more losses than the enemy russia eventually beat.

Historically, no matter how impressive the russian military looks on the surface in peace time, the first exposure to serious combat always shows the actual combat power of Russian military have fallen far behind those of other leading military power over any lengthy period of peace. Some times the Russians never recover during that war, sometimes the russians recover at great cost and suffering, ultimately producing an effective and massive fighting force by the end of the war, only to have the fighting force continue to look good on the outside, but hollowed out in skill and capability on the inside, compare to others, over any long period of peace that follows.

This war just shows the russians still have not broken this historic habit.
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very good post

in Crimea war Russians were still using 15th century rifles

and in WW2 still using horse and cart
 
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Abominable said:
Since when?
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They’ve been gone for atleast a few days; the landing ships that were in Berdyansk left the operational area immediately following the attack. A little over a week later the formation loitering near Odessa left, they did return later but shortly departed back for Crimea after a few days.

Satellite imaging from today shows that only four ships are near Odessa; three that are in formation for mine clearing operations and another one sailing independently. The Moskva is currently in port and the intelligence ship Ivan Khurs is loitering around snake island with a Grigorovich frigate; presumably Admiral Essen.

In total there are eight russian ships operating in the Black Sea as of today; only four of which appear to be warships.
 
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They’ve been gone for atleast a few days; the landing ships that were in Berdyansk left the operational area immediately following the attack. A little over a week later the formation loitering near Odessa left, they did return later but shortly departed back for Crimea after a few days.

Satellite imaging from today shows that only four ships are near Odessa; three that are in formation for mine clearing operations and another one sailing independently. The Moskva is currently in port and the intelligence ship Ivan Khurs is loitering around snake island with a Grigorovich frigate; presumably Admiral Essen.

In total there are eight russian ships operating in the Black Sea as of today; only four of which appear to be warships.
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They must have figured out what happened to that ship that got sunk.
 
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*DEVELOPING*

According to Slovakian media, Slovakia and Ukraine have almost finalized an agreement on the sale of 16 ZUZANA 155mm Self-Propelled Howitzers to Ukraine.

The ZUZANA has firing range of 41km.
 
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meckhardt98 said:
Most Russian naval vessels in the operational area have either gone back to port or are loitering near Crimea; with the notable exception of three Russian ships in formation near Odessa for mine clearing operations
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Military ship probably need to reload missiles at nearest russian military port. It will be interesting to see ships rotations in the next month. It's important to keep some submarine tracking over there, some covert operation could happen, like for the release of trapped foreign soldiers in Mariupol.
 
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Atomicfrog said:
Military ship probably need to reload missiles at nearest russian military port. It will be interesting to see ships rotations in the next month. It's important to keep some submarine tracking over there, some covert operation could happen, like for the release of trapped foreign soldiers in Mariupol.
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Most likely the reason they’ve been using K300P Bastion complex(s) for precision strikes while Russian ships undergo replenishment; deployed ships have a notably lower missile capacity when compared to another analog systems within their own fleets and internationally.

Although I’m still under the impression that Russian missiles; namely 3M-54/SS-N-30A are becoming increasing scarce without allocating missiles stores from other military districts; which would degrade the operational capability of the Russian Navy as a whole.
 
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