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Ukrainian War Developments
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To be fair, that article was written 3 weeks before your post. I read your post 812850, but I haven't learned what the Russian air doctrine is. Can you explain in more detail?Western authors, as always...
This ineffectiveness of VKS on complex air operations I had already warned: Ukrainian War Developments
Do you have a link to the Russian MOD briefing you are referring to?
The Russian Air Force will soon be put to an important test. They will have to prevent Ukraine from sending in reinforcements and supplies needed to repel the Russian pincer maneuver in the Dombass. Theoretically, the Ukrainians should be an even easier target on the move than the Russians were thanks to their relatively much weaker air defense capability. Let's see how they will fare.
Justin Bronk has a long history of anti-Russian articles.
He specialises in "hit" articles against Russian aircraft in particular.
His "analysis" are often riddled with errors too, and often seem gleaned from online blogs and forums.
I haven't bothered to read an article of his for a long while now.
In fact, the allegedly 'anti-Russian' Justin Bronk recently wrote an article *opposing* a NATO 'no fly zone' in Ukraine.
Of course, he does not have access to top secret information (do you?) on Russian aircraft performance, but I think that
he strives to be as objective as he can about the information available to him.
I once watched a Russian video (presented by a young woman) that boasted the Sukhoi Su-57 was the best fighter in
the world, clearly superior to the F-35 (not to mention the J-20). What she did was to focus upon the Sukhoi Su-57's
supposed strengths (such as manoeuvrability) while ignoring its supposed weaknesses. I suspect that many writers
here would hasten to lap up that propaganda.
I would add that Justin Bronk has been more complimentary than practically all Western journalists or politicians
toward China's aircraft industry. As I recall, he has written that countries still looking for a fourth generation fighter
should consider that the Chinese J-10 may be at least as capable as the American F-16. That's an assessment
that I never have read in the mainstream US media.
So do you imagine that Justin Bronk must be a 'Western propaganda stooge' who has an anti-Russian bias
but NOT an anti-Chinese bias?
That's quoting TASS, why don't they link to the page where it is said? I don't see anything on TASS admitting losses.
Edit: didn't see it's the telegram channel
So many delusional people that don't even have any basic understanding of logistics and supplies constraint.
They have a lot of loss most probably. They have huge amount of material to throw at Ukraine, it's the loss of troops that could be problematic. Ukraine have probably loss a lot more anyway. They will unleash hell more or less after Mariupol. Russia have not taken Ukraine seriously enough, we will see what they can bring to push the front faster.That's quoting TASS, why don't they link to the page where it is said? I don't see anything on TASS admitting losses.
It's on Telegram.That's quoting TASS, why don't they link to the page where it is said? I don't see anything on TASS admitting losses.
Here's the link to the article
Not sure if this will mean they will escalate or fall back more. I doubt they will fall back. There's too much political risk. Ukraine will try to drag out the negotiations. If Russia falls back now, I think Putin is done and there is a real risk the govt will be overthrown.
But I feel the more likely scenario is they will start massive escalation in East ukraine.
Zichan replied to Suetham:To be fair, that article was written 3 weeks before your post. I read your post 812850, but I haven't learned what the Russian air doctrine is. Can you explain in more detail?
Do you have a link to the Russian MOD briefing you are referring to?
The Russian Air Force will soon be put to an important test. They will have to prevent Ukraine from sending in reinforcements and supplies needed to repel the Russian pincer maneuver in the Dombass. Theoretically, the Ukrainians should be an even easier target on the move than the Russians were thanks to their relatively much weaker air defense capability. Let's see how they will fare.
Writers (such as Suetham) here apparently have ignored this important qualification by Justin Bronk, which I already quoted:
"While the early VKS failure to establish air superiority could be explained by lack of early warning, coordination capacity and
sufficient planning time, the continued pattern of activity suggests a more significant conclusion: that the VKS lacks the
institutional capacity to plan, brief and fly complex air operations at scale. There is significant circumstantial evidence to
support this, *admittedly tentative*, explanation."
Note that Justin Bronk was NOT claiming that his hypothesis must be the final correct explanation (a 'strawman' to attack).
He wrote that it's an 'admittedly tentative' hypothesis. Time will tell how valid it is.
Of course, putting words in others' mouths and attacking 'strawmen' is par for the course for many writers here.
Putin is in big trouble if they take only Donbass and Luhansk after all the incursions from the north and south... they lost way to many for just that. It would be one of the greatest loss for Russia.It's on Telegram.
Here's the link to the article
Not sure if this will mean they will escalate or fall back more. I doubt they will fall back. There's too much political risk. Ukraine will try to drag out the negotiations. If Russia falls back now, I think Putin is done and there is a real risk the govt will be overthrown.
But I feel the more likely scenario is they will start massive escalation in East ukraine.
Russians are trying to do ‘brotherly war’ on Ukraine while getting sanctioned, Russian POWs getting tortured and executed. Withdrawing for goodwill reasons. All the while negotiating with the despotic Ukrainian regime.
Putin is showing major weakness. A hawkish Russian leader would have crushed Ukraine by now for all the suffering Ukraine has caused Russia.
Putin’s weakness is the biggest obstacle to Russia getting decisive victory. He is the problem.
Putin is showing major weakness. A hawkish Russian leader would have crushed Ukraine by now for all the suffering Ukraine has caused Russia.
Putin’s weakness is the biggest obstacle to Russia getting decisive victory. He is the problem.
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