See you in a couple of weeks, then.
Ukrainian War Developments
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One spicy fact that i found recently, is that both DPR and LPR presidents joined the United Russia party at November 2021. Source, wikipedia. Seems that the situation is a bit prescripted. CIA caught perfectly asleep, or that's the reason they bark so loud last month about invasion etc
China attacked Vietnam and immediately left in 1979. It didn't stay forever using a weird mix of 'Muh blood brother' mental gymnastics in Vietnam like Russia is doing in Ukraine, even though China probably has better claim to Vietnam than Russia has on Ukraine. The Vietnamese state was founded by a Qin-dynasty general and Vietnam was a province of China for almost 1,200 years and Vietnamese Emperors were calling their subjects 'Han people' as late as the 18th century. (I'm not supporting irredentism/revanchism, I'm just proving any nationalist can make up any BS to justify annexation)
The (basically Chinese gov't approved) have publicly said there was no comparison between Ukraine and Taiwan.
Rather than Taiwan, a better comparison would be Outer Mongolia after Qing-collapse, PRC (reluctantly) recognized Mongolia as sovereign independent countries in a legally-binding treaty despite their legacy part of Qing/Yuan dynasties. Just like Ukraine was formed post-Soviet collapse, Russia (reluctantly) recognized Ukraine as a sovereign independent nation, despite legacy as part of Tsar/Soviet empires. Some Chinese nationalists even push for reunification of Outer Mongolia, which is not much different from Russia nationalists advocating for restoration of Ukraine into Russia. Taiwan was never an ex-colony, never recognized as sovereign, and is part of an unresolved civil war. Taiwan is not "Lost territory" like Mongolia or Vietnam which declared independence and was accepted by China as independent. China never accepted Taiwan as dejure independent and Taiwan even claims to be "China" whereas Mongolia/Vietnam doesn't want anything to do with China, which is similar to Ukraine.
Now imagine if Mongolia/Vietnam sought US alliance with US troops on China's borders, how would China react? It will likely use massive economic and even punitive military attack (1979 war) to dissuade any alliance containment. But would China annex any territory using a weird amalgam of "we were part of Yuan dynasty together", "we share similar culture, Buddhism", and "Chinggis Khan was Chinese emperor"? NO, that is some bullshit weird revanchism/irredentism mental gymnastics that doesn't make sense. It's borderline 'Korean-insanity' with their claim that all things like Confucius has 'Korean-origin'. However, Russia is invoke "Blood brothers", "Shared Culture", and "Shared Kievan Rus" history to justify annexation of Ukraine. This is why Russian propaganda on "Muh Blood brothers" is so troublesome, because it's based on flimsy anecdotes and is not remotely comparable to Taiwan, which is exact same Han ethnicity, same Mandarin language, same characters, literally the same people. Ukrainians/Russians are almost as different as Mongols/Vietnamese vs. Chinese.
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What about Tibet then? I would prefer not to get into this sort of argument.
I do not agree with the recognition of LPR and DPR either. But it is true those people were stuck in a bad situation and the Ukraine regime had over 7 years to respect the Minsk accords and failed to do so in bad faith.
I do not agree with the recognition of LPR and DPR either. But it is true those people were stuck in a bad situation and the Ukraine regime had over 7 years to respect the Minsk accords and failed to do so in bad faith.
I still think the first should be the establishment of capacity to close the Panama canal, and to strike the CONUS.
But we haven't got any reliable information about the events in Donbas, appart from the mainstream news claim about the Russians shooting themselves.
But we haven't got any reliable information about the events in Donbas, appart from the mainstream news claim about the Russians shooting themselves.
Tibet? Tibet? You Russophiles are funny.
- Did ROC/PRC formally recognize Tibet as sovereign/independent after Tibet declared independence post-Qing collapse? Heck no.
- Whereas Russia formally-recognized Ukraine as sovereign/independent after Ukraine declared independence post-Soviet collapse.
- Ukraine has worldwide international recognition post-Soviet collapse, did Tibet have worldwide international recognition post-Qing collapse?
You Russophiliacs have only a modicum of understanding of history and will twist and warp any historical event to your favor.
Russia isn't the only country that US has pushed against the wall.... I feel like she is hinting at something without saying it directly
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