Ukrainian War Developments

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Jingle Bells

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Fluidity is what makes evolution possible. No fluidity, no evolution.
Not how it works with ethnicity or group identity.

Like I said. you can argue that "Ukrainian" identity should not qualify as a ethnicity. That's fine. But to say that "Ukrainian" doesn't exist, it's only a lie and made up word, that is simply wrong. Because it does exist as a group identity.

The Qin unified China, and assimilated Chu culture back into 中原 (Central Chinese Plain), but this does NOT mean that Chu identity never existed. It still exists to this date, it's just not a national/ethnic identity. And if China was never unified like how Qin did, it is very possible that Chu will evolve into a major ethnicity or even be the mother of several modern day ethnicities. But that's in a alternative timeline.

This is the same with many other cases in the world. For a group identity, once it comes into existence, then it exists. Even if it ceased to exist, it still has existed once. You can argue that its nature does NOT really qualify what it claims, but there is no denying its existence.

Ukraine has at east existed as a country since 1991. You can question its nature, its legitimacy, its stability and integrity. But you can't just downright say that "there is no such thing as Ukraine", "doesn't exist", "all a made up lie".

I am not a simple anti-Russian person who just bash for the sake of bashing. Not at all! I insist on this because this is both bad for Ukraine and bad for Russia. This make Russians look like absolutely incoherent brutal barbarians, while in reality, Russians could have meant to say something much more complicated and much less blunt.
 

Weaasel

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Not how it works with ethnicity or group identity.

Like I said. you can argue that "Ukrainian" identity should not qualify as a ethnicity. That's fine. But to say that "Ukrainian" doesn't exist, it's only a lie and made up word, that is simply wrong. Because it does exist as a group identity.

The Qin unified China, and assimilated Chu culture back into 中原 (Central Chinese Plain), but this does NOT mean that Chu identity never existed. It still exists to this date, it's just not a national/ethnic identity. And if China was never unified like how Qin did, it is very possible that Chu will evolve into a major ethnicity or even be the mother of several modern day ethnicities. But that's in a alternative timeline.

This is the same with many other cases in the world. For a group identity, once it comes into existence, then it exists. Even if it ceased to exist, it still has existed once. You can argue that its nature does NOT really qualify what it claims, but there is no denying its existence.

Ukraine has at east existed as a country since 1991. You can question its nature, its legitimacy, its stability and integrity. But you can't just downright say that "there is no such thing as Ukraine", "doesn't exist", "all a made up lie".

I am not a simple anti-Russian person who just bash for the sake of bashing. Not at all! I insist on this because this is both bad for Ukraine and bad for Russia. This make Russians look like absolutely incoherent brutal barbarians, while in reality, Russians could have meant to say something much more complicated and much less blunt.
Still discussing ethnicity and nationality? You do not need to win the argument here. Just don't respond.
 

sheogorath

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Something tells me this will become a Douma Chemical Attack moment.

Some western classified report on the matter that shows it was either fake or actually comitted by ukrainian forces on pro-russian population will get leaked and the media will quietly drop the matter with 0 corrections.

Meanwhile, everybody else will think it was actually real and the historic narrative will be set.
 

Atomicfrog

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The UK blocked a Russian attempt to hold a meeting to discuss what happened in Bucha at the UNSC. I didn't even know that was possible.

I don't see why Russia is trying to discredit the Bucha story. It's intended solely for domestic western consumption. He has no way of the Russian side of the story to the western public.

People mostly stopped caring about the Ukraine war and stories started being read less and less. America wants to escalate the conflict by getting Europe to cut off their gas imports. So run the fake stories for a few days to get the sympathy back and then announce you will stop buying gas as a response to Russia. Europeans will be less bothered about losing their jobs, not having enough food or warmth if they feel it is helping prevent "genocide".
In any case... way better to group up corpse than letting them rot everywhere. In any combet zones, there will be mass graves with mutilated bodies. Artillery shrapnels are not beauty shops.
 
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