Ukrainian War Developments

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enroger

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How do we know this is an SU-35? This could be SU-27SM3 or SM2, which i need to remind you that also a single seat fighter



This just indicates that Ukrainians has lost most of their recovery vehicle and opted to use farming tools to tow military vehicles

Can you tell from the wingtip self protection pods?
 

Darkon112

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yet Oryx Twitter feed has every single claim backed by photographic evidence

and Oryx is hugely underestimating the Russian loses the real number is most likely 2-3 times higher

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Been already pointed out to you multiple times.

But posts like this which i have no doubt you have read, put it quite bluntly.

Gelgoog and few others also had excellent post on Oryx and his inability to identify stuff correctly.
 

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Here's another attempt at debunking by pro-Russian sources. Seems kind of too blurry to make out the detail, but what do you guys think?
Edit: the hand thing looks like a water droplet on the windscreen.

Well we finally got a official explanation from the other side about what happened in Bucha. I don't know if the explanation is realistic, so I leave it up to you guys what think of the situation. At this point, I'm sick of being fooled around by propaganda.

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Can you tell from the wingtip self protection pods?

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Well Su-30SM can carry the same pod. You can however see the radome, for me it looks white which what Su-30SM Radome is, while Su-35 have grey or light grey radome.

But then i can be wrong.

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Aside from that it's a sad blunder but this is war anyway. back in 99 Scott o Grady got blown up in the skies yet no one stops buying F-16's.
 

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Well Su-30SM can carry the same pod. You can however see the radome, for me it looks white which what Su-30SM Radome is, while Su-35 have grey or light grey radome.

But then i can be wrong.

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Aside from that it's a sad blunder but this is war anyway. back in 99 Scott o Grady got blown up in the skies yet no one stops buying F-16's.

Well if a F-22 fly in low altitude subsonic throwing dumb bombs then it is also subjected to the same threats, pgm pgm pgm.... lets not beat a dead horse now....
 

Darkon112

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Well we finally got a official explanation from the other side about what happened in Bucha. I don't know if the explanation is realistic, so I leave it up to you guys what think of the situation. At this point, I'm sick of being fooled around by propaganda.


Well, it is kind of suspicious it took Ukrainians four days to find dead bodies scattered around the streets. You'd think they'd post about it the very minute they found some like with everything else they do, no ? And RuMoD has a point the bodies look to fresh for something that's been laying for 4 days.
 

Weaasel

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This war is a game for Russians. No need to rush.
They sure did rush the Kiev Operation, though... Game? A game that's costly in terms of money, lives, and equipment!
naysayer will continue to deny Russia ever lost Su34 + Su35

yet Oryx Twitter feed has every single claim backed by photographic evidence

and Oryx is hugely underestimating the Russian loses the real number is most likely 2-3 times higher

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It lost some. Your point being that it is expensive to replace them?
 

Coalescence

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Well, it is kind of suspicious it took Ukrainians four days to find dead bodies scattered around the streets. You'd think they'd post about it the very minute they found some like with everything else they do, no ? And RuMoD has a point the bodies look to fresh for something that's been laying for 4 days.
True, and from the looks it, some of them don't have a clear indicator of what have killed them, and no dried blood on the floor. There are other pictures the pro-Ukrainian sides are sharing that they say is from Bucha, but we have no context or proof that they are really from there yet.
 
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