Ukrainian War Developments

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Abominable

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I don't know what to believe anymore. But I found lots of inconsistencies on MSM and twitter.

I thought the US intelligence said Russian was planning a push on donbass in 1-2 weeks, did the Russians start early?
The Kremlin is a black box right now. I honestly can't say what they are planning. They could turn around tomorrow with a peace deal, or start dropping tactical nukes all over Europe. Neither would surprise me.

If I were to guess, they are waiting for Mariupol to be cleared, then redeploy those forces (~15,000) to complete the encirclement of the main Ukrainian armies in the east. If the RuAF was deployed it would be game over for the Ukrainians at that point. No retreat would be possible, especially if the ground has turns to mud as some expect, and assuming they even have fuel.

Putin or his generals for some reason aren't deploying the air force except for localised theatres (e.g. Mariupol). Where it has been used, it has been devastating.
 

Coalescence

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Putin or his generals for some reason aren't deploying the air force except for localised theatres (e.g. Mariupol). Where it has been used, it has been devastating.
They want to keep civilian casualties to the minimum as much as they can, but looking at the strategies the Ukrainian militaries are employing, I'm afraid they are going to start using their airforce more liberally now for subsequent conquest of other major cities.

But other possible explanation is they are keeping it for bigger operations, lacking in supply/number or is afraid of the anti-air weapons the Ukrainian military seem to be armed to the teeth with.
 

Atomicfrog

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The Kremlin is a black box right now. I honestly can't say what they are planning. They could turn around tomorrow with a peace deal, or start dropping tactical nukes all over Europe. Neither would surprise me.

If I were to guess, they are waiting for Mariupol to be cleared, then redeploy those forces (~15,000) to complete the encirclement of the main Ukrainian armies in the east. If the RuAF was deployed it would be game over for the Ukrainians at that point. No retreat would be possible, especially if the ground has turns to mud as some expect, and assuming they even have fuel.

Putin or his generals for some reason aren't deploying the air force except for localised theatres (e.g. Mariupol). Where it has been used, it has been devastating.
Maybe they want Ukraine to do a push and regrouping their troops. If they have troops concentration they will unleash hell. Right now it look like they are spreaded all over the place in small groups with insane stockpiles of manpads and atgm. Don't know how they can keep cohesion and supply running but they are in their own country and have been waiting the Russian for a while.
 
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Abominable

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They want to keep civilian casualties to the minimum as much as they can, but looking at the strategies the Ukrainian militaries are employing, I'm afraid they are going to start using their airforce more liberally now for subsequent conquest of other major cities.

But other possible explanation is they are keeping it for bigger operations, lacking in supply/number or is afraid of the anti-air weapons the Ukrainian military seem to be armed to the teeth with.
The first one is the most likely reason IMO. Thanks to the go soft policy far more people have died than if he went 100% on day one. And everyone in the west still thinks he's a war criminal anyway.

The second could have some truth. They definitely aren't low on dumb bombs, but maybe they are having difficulties keeping up sorties. I don't think they would be afraid of what few SAM site remain.

Another reason could be some sort of agreement with NATO, or he's afraid it could provoke a western response. I think that's unlikely as Putin seems happy to escalate whenever he can.
 

Terrowyn

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it doesn't make sense to blow up a dam on the Donets for both military and economic reasons, so I guess they're recycling footage.
The dam is located east of Izium and north of the Kramatorsk front. It makes sense to me because the more they can disable the Russians ability to cross the river (longer stretch the better) then the more likely it is that trying to encircle Kramatorsk with a pincer type motion will fail from the North, especially when you see how the donets river travels eastwards after the dam as it approaches Kramatorsk. If anything, it has helped cut off russian armory from getting into izium which has been seen as strategically important.

The economy isn't going to be in their minds in an existential war like this, they're going to be pulling out all the stops just to survive, and Russia should expect this.
 

Abominable

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They want to keep civilian casualties to the minimum as much as they can, but looking at the strategies the Ukrainian militaries are employing, I'm afraid they are going to start using their airforce more liberally now for subsequent conquest of other major cities.

But other possible explanation is they are keeping it for bigger operations, lacking in supply/number or is afraid of the anti-air weapons the Ukrainian military seem to be armed to the teeth with.
I hope Putin realises this, because the longer the war goes on the dirtier it's going to get.
 
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