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reservior dogs

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Are you speaking of circumstances with which you have experience, or arguing out of your ass?

I’ve had friends that were, and some former friends that still are, addicts. One thing I’ve learned is that trying to “help” an addict can be just like trying to save a drowning person! Have you ever been trained in swimming by a professional program? That’s the the one thing they teach you never to try! The best thing for a person with anything to lose to do, when confronted with an addict, is to protect oneself from the destructive behaviors and patterns of addiction until those are completely resolved. I came this close to killing an addicted ex-friend who, because of his sickness, was impelled to break into my mother’s home looking to steal jewelry.

I see a similar pattern with Putin and would expect it to continue, and even escalate!
I would not call Putin an addict. He is doing the best he can to protect the interests of Russia under very difficult circumstances and he has played what cards he has very well, which is more than many politicians in Western Europe are doing today.

I also have known people who are addicts and agree that it is a very difficult issue. Even if they are willing to try, 95% of the time, they relapse. The key is to extend help if they want to try out of humanitarian reasons but not to have unrealistic expectation. It takes enormous will power to stay clean. 95% of the people just don't not have it in themselves to do it in the longer term.
 
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james smith esq

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NS2 is not only to serve Germany but part of EU around Germany. If this part of EU has problem to pay their electricity bill for basic heating and cocking let alone factories to make some money, how are they going to pay for Chinese import? Wishing to crash competitors in this manner is like "killing the hen for the egg".

Also a down-falling Germany will only benefit the American puppets in Europe, such as UK. It is the worst thing for China. Basically the US and UK etc. are actively pursuit the fall of any big powers who want to be independent or neutral, like Germany and France etc.
However, is it possible that China could engage France, Germany, and other European nations (not England) in collaborative research towards the next generation of nuclear and other green forms of power production?
 

taxiya

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However, is it possible that China could engage France, Germany, and other European nations (not England) in collaborative research towards the next generation of nuclear and other green forms of power production?
With severely weakened Germany and France against a strengthened US/UK alliance? The key of victory is NOT only self victory, but the victory of ones partners as well. Chinese saying "独木难支“, a single pillar can not support a house.
 

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However, is it possible that China could engage France, Germany, and other European nations (not England) in collaborative research towards the next generation of nuclear and other green forms of power production?

Possible. But China is ahead in commercially viable nuclear or green power anyway.

It would have to be speculative technologies which have yet to demonstrated as viable.
 

james smith esq

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I would not call Putin an addict. He is doing the best he can to protect the interests of Russia under very difficult circumstances and he has played what cards he has very well, which is more than many politicians in Western Europe are doing today.

I also have known people who are addicts and agree that it is a very difficult issue. Even if they are willing to try, 95% of the time, they relapse. The key is to extend help if they want to try out of humanitarian reasons but not to have unrealistic expectation. It takes enormous will power to stay clean. 95% of the people just does not have it in themselves to do it in the longer term.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll repeat it ‘til I die. If Putin is willing to use the Russian military to risk the ire of the “west”, and, simultaneously, truly elevate Russia’s economic position then Ukraine was a myopic option. If he wants to truly re-establish Russia as the central energy supplier, he should load up the Tu-22M3s, the Tu-95s, and the Tu-160s with Kh-101s and Kh-102s and take out the Saudi and Qatari oil and gas production/processing/export facilities in the northern Persian Gulf and then see who Europe buys their gas from. What are they gon’na do then, not buy oil and gas from (sanction) Russia?

Isn’t this what the US has effectively done in Iraq, through bombing, and in Venezuela and Iran, through sanctions?

Additionally, such a drastic strategy would also, immediately, improve the economic fortunes of those same countries, named above, that the US and Anglos have striven to undermine, countries with which Russia has worked to maintain mutually supportive relations.
 
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Atomicfrog

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I’ve said it before, and I’ll repeat it ‘til I die. If Putin is willing to use the Russian military to risk the ire of the “west”, and, simultaneously, truly elevate Russia’s economic position then Ukraine was a myopic option. If he wants to truly re-establish Russia as the central energy supplier, he should load up the Tu-22M3s, the Tu-95s, and the Tu-160s with Kh-101s and Kh-102s and take out the Saudi and Qatari oil and gas production/processing/export facilities in the northern Persian Gulf and then see who Europe buys their gas from. What are they gon’na do then, not buy oil and gas from (sanction) Russia?

Isn’t this what the US has effectively done in Iraq, through bombing, and in Venezuela and Iran, through sanctions?

Additionally, such a drastic strategy would also, immediately, improve the economic fortunes of those same countries, named above, that the US and Anglos have striven to undermine, countries with which Russia has worked to maintain mutually supportive relations.
Make me remember that they have a draft on new Iran nuclear deal, don't know how much gaz reserve they have ?
 
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