Ukrainian War Developments

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Atomicfrog

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Don't be stupid, M777 is far too expensive to be sent to Ukraine
We have some here in Canada, they take more than 3 times to assemble, shot and leave than the C1 105mm Howitzer that my wife used during her time in the artillery. You need bigger trucks too. Yep they hit more and shot farther but damn, the time it take to dismount fire and go is way bigger than the time an Iskander will obliviate the unit. The rate of fire is pretty slow too, the 105 have the time to adjust and fire a second time before the m777 hit the target with his first round.

It's clearly not an artillery happy place to be in Ukraine, each shot risk to be answered, you need to be fast like hell.
 

gelgoog

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If they send M777 howitzers to Ukraine then Russia will be forced to use Iskander K cruise missiles to strike Kiev from Belarus. The end result is agony of the Ukrainian people and devastation of Ukraine as a whole.
M777 howitzer has less range than either Tornado-S rocket artillery or 2S7M Malka 203mm conventional artillery.
 
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Chish

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I am sure that is there. We have a paucity of sources, sadly, with tallies that are within plausibility. The Ukrainians and Russians are boratino's triplets at this point.

I will say, to Oryx's credit, multiple times the counts have dropped due to Oryx noting the photos were of duplicates. For example, at one point 8 APCs were removed from the count when they realized it was of ones they already have.

Even so, if I had a better source, I would totally use it.

I do label my my analysis as a guessimate. Better than a pure guess, but definitely not a solid estimate.

Typical of America to send an American Indian to talk to India. It's like they are saying to Indians "this is how we want you to behave".

Indians will probably look at this guy as a traitor and him to get lost.
That guy is imposing American interes over India by coercion but India is determined not to be another Ukraine.
 

asif iqbal

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Russian is exposing the Western hypocrisy

and its good to see West getting taste of their own medicine

but Russia needs to be honest with themselves and know that Ukrainians have too many weapons ideal for guerrilla warfare and something has to change on the battle field

Ukraine has now re-taken Irpin and Russians are now on the back foot

they need to withdraw regroup reorganise and come back with infantry and no more armoured columns

around 1,000 Russians vehicles have been 15km from Kiev for almost 5 weeks and they cannot take Kiev

this means they need to try something different otherwise they will lose this war
 

Anlsvrthng

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Russian is exposing the Western hypocrisy

and its good to see West getting taste of their own medicine

but Russia needs to be honest with themselves and know that Ukrainians have too many weapons ideal for guerrilla warfare and something has to change on the battle field

Ukraine has now re-taken Irpin and Russians are now on the back foot

they need to withdraw regroup reorganise and come back with infantry and no more armoured columns

around 1,000 Russians vehicles have been 15km from Kiev for almost 5 weeks and they cannot take Kiev

this means they need to try something different otherwise they will lose this war
Russians will be happy to bomb Liviv.

And longer the war will be in the west of Ukraine the more refugee will be in EU.
 

Zichan

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General Keane claiming that Ukraine has a chance to win and crush the Russian army in Ukraine. Blames Biden for not having a spine, worrying too much about Putin's reactions and pushing Zelensky to make a deal. Instead, we should be giving them everything they want: tanks, planes, SAMs, you name it. And if Putin reacts, so be it.

He almost brakes into tears in the end at the thought that the war might be over too soon and we might lose the opportunity to crush Russian barbarism once and for all.

I don't know general. I just bought a house and would like to enjoy it for a while and not see the world burn.
 
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