Ukrainian War Developments

Lapin said:

Another failure of reading comprehension.

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Lapin said:

"According to you , Russian people don't want war."

I never wrote that. If that's supposed to mean that I believe that ALL Russians oppose the war, that's absurd.
Again, I believe that only a small minority of Russians now oppose the war, at least actively, because it's illegal to do so.
I cannot say if most Russians *wanted* the war (Putin never asked them), but most Russians are willing to go along with it.

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Lapin said:

I am not a country or a government.

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Lapin said:

The rest of Nobaru's post is essentially gibberish.

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Lapin said:

Here's some serious advice:
Enroll in a basic course in English reading and writing.
Your English as well as your 'reasoning' ability is far beneath a well-educated person's in an Anglophone society.

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SampanViking said:

Still loads of people here talking about Russia wanting to buy Chinese weapons.
Has there to date been a single non western source stating this as fact?

What would the Russians actually want? They have after- all, the worlds second largest weapons manufacturing industry after the US.
Its a bit like the stories about them not having enough fuel, when they are one of the worlds greatest oil and gas producers !!??
If it is all about the logistics then this is another story, this is then about trucks (and probably field engineers). Trucks are duel use items and so selling those to Russia should not be pose any significant problems.

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Stealthflanker said:

So. guess no one complaining about Kh-101, 9M728 and Kalibr so far. And there seems only 2-3 photos so far of the thing crashed all or most of them were Kalibr.

I think they deserve song too like TB-2.

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Strangelove said:

LOL!!.... A bit late now. These mentally slow morons from the EU regime are entertaining.

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The Ukrainian crisis and the West’s reaction to could “push” Russia towards China, the EU’s foreign-policy chief Josep Borrell warned during the opening session of the Doha Forum on Saturday.

Doing so could lead to the creation of a major rift between the global north and south, the diplomat said, stressing that such a scenario should be avoided.

“One of the bad consequences of what’s happening is that we can push Russia to China, and we can create a division between the global southeast and the global northwest,” Borrell stated.

First of all, the West should ramp up its efforts to end the Ukrainian conflict in order to avoid the emergence of such a global rift, he explained, describing Russia’s ongoing offensive in Ukraine as a “war of attrition.”

“In order to avoid this trend, the first thing to do is to stop this war of aggression, war of attrition today,” the diplomat said, outlining the West’s strategy as a mix of military aid to Ukraine and anti-Russian sanctions.


The diplomat did not elaborate on how such a strategy would help to avoid “pushing” Russia into China’s arms. Since the beginning of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, Beijing has taken a neutral stance, urging all parties to stick to diplomacy, calling upon the West to address Russia’s longstanding security concerns and opposing unilateral anti-Russian sanctions.

China’s stance has been interpreted by the West as pro-Russian, with the US-led NATO bloc openly urging Beijing to “to abstain from supporting Russia’s war effort in any way, and to refrain from any action that helps Russia circumvent sanctions,” as well as accusing it of providing Moscow “with political support, including by spreading blatant lies and misinformation.”

Beijing, however, has refused to bow to such demands, pointing to NATO’s continued expansion into Eastern Europe as a key factor behind the current conflict, as well as citing the bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during the 1999 Yugoslavia attack as one reason it won’t listen to a “lecture on justice from the abuser of international law.”

Russia attacked Ukraine in late February, following a seven-year standoff over Kiev’s failure to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements and Russia’s recognition of the Donbass republics with capitals in Donetsk and Lugansk. The German- and French-brokered protocols had been designed to regularize the status of those regions within the Ukrainian state.

Russia has demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join NATO. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked, denying claims it was planning to retake the Donbass republics by force.

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Strangelove said:

LOL!!.... A bit late now. These mentally slow morons from the EU regime are entertaining.

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“In order to avoid this trend, the first thing to do is to stop this war of aggression, war of attrition today,” the diplomat said, outlining the West’s strategy as a mix of military aid to Ukraine and anti-Russian sanctions.

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Atomicfrog said:

That's a lot of manpads... where do they find all of these? Last batch was molded to disuse.. are they talking about the same or a new batch ?

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Overbom said:

Same.
"They stole our carrier design"
"Their new stealth bomber is a copy"
"Don't let our soldiers use Chinese crap"
"Chinese weapons are very low quality, our weapons are better"
"Wing Loong/CH/etc are bad quality American copies, our Orion is so much better"
"Their ships are only about quantity, they build them fast, but there are subpar quality with water leaks!"

lol. Kinda hilarious watching them seethe over Chinese weapons. If I knew Russian I would definetely have a go against them for their "superior" air/drone force

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Overbom said:

Same.
"They stole our carrier design"
"Their new stealth bomber is a copy"
"Don't let our soldiers use Chinese crap"
"Chinese weapons are very low quality, our weapons are better"
"Wing Loong/CH/etc are bad quality American copies, our Orion is so much better"
"Their ships are only about quantity, they build them fast, but there are subpar quality with water leaks!"

lol. Kinda hilarious watching them seethe over Chinese weapons. If I knew Russian I would definetely have a go against them for their "superior" air/drone force

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